Threshold x discovery

[stryke]

I mean they said it sucked, but not that it wasn't canon (https://www.reddit.com/r/DaystromInstit ... aid_about/) They contradicted it, but they contradicted lots of episodes.

That link doesn't mention the Paris line, and I think there's a case that Paris specifically saying he hasn't done that is a stronger more deliberate contradiction to me than the usual flubs like not tracking the number of torpedos, the number of crew, or Tuvok's age in the truly dire Fury in s6.

[TGLS]

I mean they said it sucked, but not that it wasn't canon (https://www.reddit.com/r/DaystromInstit ... aid_about/) They contradicted it, but they contradicted lots of episodes.

That link doesn't mention the Paris line, and I think there's a case that Paris specifically saying he hasn't done that is a stronger more deliberate contradiction to me than the usual flubs like not tracking the number of torpedos, the number of crew, or Tuvok's age in the truly dire Fury in s6.

That was brought up in the comments. And, are Transwarp Drives and the Threshold Warp 10 drive the same thing? There's enough vagueness in "what is Transwarp" that you could argue that there's no contradiction between Paris's comment and the episode. There's also the idea that, "we scanned every cubic centimeter of the sector!" that got contradicted, but that's the same as "Hundreds of Gigaquads were uploaded" in Twisted, that was contradicted too.

[Frustration]

Threshold is an episode the fans have largely disowned as non-canonical. It's as officially real as any other episode.

[Thebestoftherest]

Yeah, Voyager notorious for going out of their way towards not having continuity.

[McAvoy]

More like Warp 9.999999 or something super fast. Honestly at that point the whole warp scale should be redone. I can imagine a crewmember calling out the speed and have to count the number of 9s.

So I decided to do some math. Apparently they never actually made a formula for velocities for factors in excess of warp 9, just a hand drawn line. But Wolfram Alpha is willing to approximate off that, so after determining an approximation of that curve {v(f)=52.3614/(10-f)+1516}, I calculated what there warp factors would be based on the formula for factors less than 9. They are as follows:

9.900000, 9.84
9.990000, 14.09
9.999000, 26.27
9.999900, 52.01
9.999990, 103.69
9.999999, 206.87

Yeah it gets a bit silly fast. I think from the production standpoint the warp 10 barrier makes a lot of sense. Otherwise you get, "Well gee. Kirk went warp 13 last week, so this week we need to have warp 17 to show how crazy fast we're going."

Though traveling from Earth to Vulcan in would only take 9 seconds at Warp 9.999999 (alternatively 206.87).

I know at Warp 9.9999 it is up to 200k times the speed of light. Which is fast but you are still taking months to cross the galaxy. Warp 9.9 is 3053x, and Warp 9.99 is 7912x.

Maybe knowing those three points there could be a formula made for that.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

I always have just thought that the spores were more like subspace for travel more than matter/antimatter manipulation.

[stryke]

There's enough vagueness in "what is Transwarp" that you could argue...

Yes but that involves you wanting to argue

For me I think it's more fun to have it mean it's uncanonical so that's how I see it.

IHell, I don't even think it's the worst Trek episode, or even the worst Voyager episode (naybe not even bottom 3*) so it being potentially removed from the timeline is just something to be amused by than something to take all that seriously.

(if I'm counting Unimatrix Zero as two eps, add Fury then def not bottom three)