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Russian President Putin himself baselessly accused Ukraine of preparing to detonate a dirty bomb.
His remarks Wednesday followed others by Kremlin leadership making the claims.
Ukraine and the West have strongly rejected the accusations, calling them "absurd."
Russian President Vladimir Putin himself is getting in on Russia's baseless "dirty bomb" claims.
Putin joined Kremlin leadership in accusing Ukraine of preparing to detonate a so-called dirty bomb on its own territory, a claim Ukraine and the West have called "absurd."
During a virtual conference with heads of security agencies from the Commonwealth of Independent States organization — a collection of former Soviet states — Putin on Wednesday accused the US of using Ukraine as a "testing ground" for military experiments and strengthening Kyiv's arsenal of heavy weapons.
"There are also plans to use the so-called dirty bomb for provocations," Putin said during the conference, according to a Kremlin translation of the meeting.
Putin showed no evidence for either of the claims.
A dirty bomb is a radiological dispersal device that uses conventional explosives to spread radioactive material. The weapon is unlikely to cause mass casualties, but would be used terrorize civilians and distribute radioactive contamination.
Putin's remarks appear to be his first related to the dirty bomb claims, which other Russian officials have made — without citing any evidence — in recent days.
Russian Defense Ministry Sergei Shoigu previously alleged that Ukraine was planning to detonate a dirty bomb on its own territory; military experts and analysts have the accusations are an attempt by Russia to try and cause panic and siphon off support for Ukraine.
Ukrainian officials and Western states have strongly rejected Russia's accusations, with Kyiv's Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba calling Moscow's claims "absurd" and "dangerous."
"We neither have any 'dirty bombs', nor plan to acquire any," Kuleba said on Sunday. "Russians often accuse others of what they plan themselves."
Echoing these sentiments, Ukraine's state energy operator Energoatom on Tuesday accused Russian military personnel of doing "secret" work that could result in the construction of a dirty bomb at the captured Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.
During a Tuesday briefing, US State Department Spokesperson Ned Price said that although he couldn't confirm Russia's activities at the nuclear plant, the US shares the concerns brought up by Energoatom.
"We're always concerned when we hear these — this type of patently false — these specious claims come from the Russians, the fact that Defense Minister Shoigu and others are now making these false claims of a so-called dirty bomb use in Ukraine," Price said.
Pentagon Press Secretary Air Force Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder told reporters on Tuesday that the US has not yet seen any indication of Russian plans to detonate a nuclear weapon on dirty bomb. He added that "there would be consequences for Russia" if it uses either weapon.
Russia is also starting nuclear drills in case of an attack by Britain or America.
Some Putin allies are apparently publicly pushing back on his rhetoric in this case.
The general fear is that he's accusing other countries of plotting or actually using nuclear weapons (big or small) so he can "justify" using them himself in the not too distant future, or at least to force Ukraine and others to the negotiating table.
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Russia has earned such a reputation for the "announce a fake threat than do it yourself" false flag tactics that if someone does set off a dirty bomb nobody will believe it wasn't them.
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hammerofglass wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 4:43 pm
Russia has earned such a reputation for the "announce a fake threat than do it yourself" false flag tactics that if someone does set off a dirty bomb nobody will believe it wasn't them.
Doesn't matter to him though. The nonsense he spouts is what Russians are told to believe, that's all it's for. He's just about run out of options, this is about the only tool he's got left, and is desperate enough to try and damn the consequences because failure would be the end of him anyway and he couldn't give a damn about anyone else.
Although trying to bluff to force negotiations to come out of this with something is also a possibility. Hopefully that's all it is, but desperate, crazy people who have dug themselves in to a hole can do desperate, crazy things.
hammerofglass wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 4:43 pm
Russia has earned such a reputation for the "announce a fake threat than do it yourself" false flag tactics that if someone does set off a dirty bomb nobody will believe it wasn't them.
Doesn't matter to him though. The nonsense he spouts is what Russians are told to believe, that's all it's for. He's just about run out of options, this is about the only tool he's got left, and is desperate enough to try and damn the consequences because failure would be the end of him anyway and he couldn't give a damn about anyone else.
The way I see it, what he's saying is just a parchment guarantee as long as what the state does goes without resistance.
The value added in saying such things, besides people believing it, is a complication on the international stage when the US declared war on Iraq under false pretenses precipitated with the help of the UK. It's not a very strategic advantaging, but is kind of an effective middle finger to the UN convention.
I can easily imagine people deciding that Russia's credibility is so shot that they could set off a dirty bomb on their own territory and have them be blamed.
And I STILL would assume that Russia was responsible. That's how little respect I have for them.
Russia bringing up the idea strongly suggests Russia is going to attempt it.
"Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two equals four. If that is granted, all else follows." -- George Orwell, 1984
Frustration wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:45 pm
I can easily imagine people deciding that Russia's credibility is so shot that they could set off a dirty bomb on their own territory and have them be blamed.
And I STILL would assume that Russia was responsible. That's how little respect I have for them.
Russia bringing up the idea strongly suggests Russia is going to attempt it.
So you're saying that you'd be satisfied with less than the truth?
