Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power

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hammerofglass wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 7:45 am Well you are the exact audience for that kind of thing.
People like you amuse me greatly. I have just spent a page talking about my love of strong women, and now i'm what? A sexist because I find a meme funny? Because i'm insulting a shitty writer of a shitty show who happens to be female? Please illuminate me as to the nature of your comment there.

In fact, I also mentioned repeatedly that I was enjoying the She Hulk show until, well, shite like the above started happening. Because that is not a strong woman. That is not even a reflection of most women ever.

But, you see what you want to see, I guess.
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clearspira wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:00 am
hammerofglass wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 7:45 am Well you are the exact audience for that kind of thing.
People like you amuse me greatly. I have just spent a page talking about my love of strong women, and now i'm what? A sexist because I find a meme funny? Because i'm insulting a shitty writer of a shitty show who happens to be female? Please illuminate me as to the nature of your comment there.

In fact, I also mentioned repeatedly that I was enjoying the She Hulk show until, well, shite like the above started happening. Because that is not a strong woman. That is not even a reflection of most women ever.

But, you see what you want to see, I guess.
There was no deeper meaning, you ARE the exact audience for that meme. You just explained why. When I saw it drifting around a week or two ago I idly wondered if you made it.

Your guilty conscience or whatever it is has you so defensive and emotional is not my concern.
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clearspira wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:11 pm Yep. A large percentage of modern ''strong women'' are little more than men with boobs.
Parodic stereotypes of men, with boobs. The vast majority of men aren't like that either.
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hammerofglass wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:30 am
clearspira wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:00 am
hammerofglass wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 7:45 am Well you are the exact audience for that kind of thing.
People like you amuse me greatly. I have just spent a page talking about my love of strong women, and now i'm what? A sexist because I find a meme funny? Because i'm insulting a shitty writer of a shitty show who happens to be female? Please illuminate me as to the nature of your comment there.

In fact, I also mentioned repeatedly that I was enjoying the She Hulk show until, well, shite like the above started happening. Because that is not a strong woman. That is not even a reflection of most women ever.

But, you see what you want to see, I guess.
There was no deeper meaning, you ARE the exact audience for that meme. You just explained why. When I saw it drifting around a week or two ago I idly wondered if you made it.

Your guilty conscience or whatever it is has you so defensive and emotional is not my concern.
There's an example of trying to shoehorn what someone says in to what you'd like to think they are if ever I've seen one.
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hammerofglass wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:30 am
clearspira wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:00 am
hammerofglass wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 7:45 am Well you are the exact audience for that kind of thing.
People like you amuse me greatly. I have just spent a page talking about my love of strong women, and now i'm what? A sexist because I find a meme funny? Because i'm insulting a shitty writer of a shitty show who happens to be female? Please illuminate me as to the nature of your comment there.

In fact, I also mentioned repeatedly that I was enjoying the She Hulk show until, well, shite like the above started happening. Because that is not a strong woman. That is not even a reflection of most women ever.

But, you see what you want to see, I guess.
There was no deeper meaning, you ARE the exact audience for that meme. You just explained why. When I saw it drifting around a week or two ago I idly wondered if you made it.

Your guilty conscience or whatever it is has you so defensive and emotional is not my concern.
You are clearly seeing only what you want to see. The black and white, all or nothing internet argument at work.
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clearspira wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 7:22 am Image

Speaking of our conversation of strong women here, I found this. I will freely admit that its unfair but it also made me LOL. (Its also more evidence that you'll ever need that men do in fact like strong women).
Not only is it unfair, it is also an absolute lie used to push a culture war narrative. There are ton of well written strong female characters who were written by women. Heck, Japan alone has buttload of examples of that.
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But there aren't any intelligent, strong women written by woke neo-feminists.

Isn't that rather peculiar?
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Frustration wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 10:33 pm But there aren't any intelligent, strong women written by woke neo-feminists.

Isn't that rather peculiar?
Except that meme isn't talking about just "woke neo-feminists", it's referring to ALL female writers.

So, still a bunch of culture war nonsense.
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It makes the very pertinent point that certain male writers wrote better female characters than certain female writers.

This deflates the arguments that men can't write convincing women or that women have a special facility for writing women.
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BBally81 wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 10:05 pm
clearspira wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 7:22 am Image

Speaking of our conversation of strong women here, I found this. I will freely admit that its unfair but it also made me LOL. (Its also more evidence that you'll ever need that men do in fact like strong women).
Not only is it unfair, it is also an absolute lie used to push a culture war narrative. There are ton of well written strong female characters who were written by women. Heck, Japan alone has buttload of examples of that.
The Japanese are not afraid to write women as women. They are allowed to be scared, to be vulnerable, to cry, to need and want men and children. AND they do this whilst kicking ass and looking sexy whilst doing it.

Compare this to Rey or Cpt "I Have Had A Stroke And I Cannot Smile" Marvel to see the difference.

So you're right, the meme is wrong. There should be a * that says "Hollywood" on it.
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