The issue has more to do with exploitation than chaos theory of company protocol.Madner Kami wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:42 amCorrect. People tend to fail to realize, how their actions and choices reflect on their larger peer-group. A prime example is the worker who is willing to put that extra effort in and does work in his unpaid off-hours, even if it's just ten minutes. Company sees things are in working order despite cutting hours, so they'll try to cut more hours, putting more performance pressure on everyone. Negative feedback loops are a thing.Riedquat wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:36 amGot to be careful about how you regard "willing" - that any choice is a real one and doesn't only exist in theory ("well you can choose between this and being sacked" merely being the most extreme example).Thebestoftherest wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 12:56 am Personally if they are willing to do that work and aren't force why not. Again it should be their choice.
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Your issue has more to do with ascribing one-sided responsibility, when it's a collective failure.BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:12 pmThe issue has more to do with exploitation than chaos theory of company protocol.
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I was just pointing out the potential red herring of your example.Madner Kami wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:28 pmYour issue has more to do with ascribing one-sided responsibility, when it's a collective failure.BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:12 pmThe issue has more to do with exploitation than chaos theory of company protocol.
Company policy isn't set by the workers. Though the workers are liable for company policy, they don't regulate it or necessarily monitor it on a broad scale.
Willingness and complicity have specifically to do with liability and implication on a personal level.
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Workers sanction company policy by accepting the work contract.
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The point is that they're not part of the mechanism that renders the work into an exploitable nature.Madner Kami wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:10 pm Workers sanction company policy by accepting the work contract.
The overall effort is to modulate the work conditions by sensible policy, and that goes beyond just finding all material agents of cause and effect in the situation.
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The point is, that they are part of the mechanism that renders the work into an exploitable nature.BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:44 pmThe point is that they're not part of the mechanism that renders the work into an exploitable nature.Madner Kami wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:10 pm Workers sanction company policy by accepting the work contract.
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That leaves their liability in the matter up for debate.Madner Kami wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:02 pmThe point is, that they are part of the mechanism that renders the work into an exploitable nature.BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:44 pmThe point is that they're not part of the mechanism that renders the work into an exploitable nature.Madner Kami wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:10 pm Workers sanction company policy by accepting the work contract.
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I think the point is that most people like to eat and have a place to live in that is not their vehicle, if not worse.
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Chick-Fil-A is a shitty company anyway. LGBT campaigners got the UK's only outlet closed down - it lasted nine days lol.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-b ... e-50094551
Good riddance.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-b ... e-50094551
Good riddance.
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Employment standards need to be fair to workers, and there are numerous institutional measures and social types of provisions which have advocated for such standards throughout time.hypocratus wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:06 pm I think the point is that most people like to eat and have a place to live in that is not their vehicle, if not worse.
It's very commonplace is all I'm saying, and these rules level employment levels marginally.
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