The Russian Invasion of Ukraine

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Re: The Russian Invasion of Ukraine

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pilight wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:04 am It's probably accidental no matter whose it is. Neither side wants to admit their missile guidance is so poor that they hit the wrong country.


When is it ever a good time to take credit for death and destruction?

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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 3:24 am
pilight wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:04 am It's probably accidental no matter whose it is. Neither side wants to admit their missile guidance is so poor that they hit the wrong country.


When is it ever a good time to take credit for death and destruction?

-food for thought.
When your goal is to create terror?
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TGLS wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 11:09 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 3:24 am
pilight wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:04 am It's probably accidental no matter whose it is. Neither side wants to admit their missile guidance is so poor that they hit the wrong country.


When is it ever a good time to take credit for death and destruction?

-food for thought.
When your goal is to create terror?
Ah, but wouldn't the terror have already been created?
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:14 am
TGLS wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 11:09 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 3:24 am
pilight wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:04 am It's probably accidental no matter whose it is. Neither side wants to admit their missile guidance is so poor that they hit the wrong country.


When is it ever a good time to take credit for death and destruction?

-food for thought.
When your goal is to create terror?
Ah, but wouldn't the terror have already been created?
Well if you want to terrify people you need to let them know who to be afraid of. And you need to tell who should be impressed.
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A report on NPR this morning stated that the missile was Ukrainian.
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Re: The Russian Invasion of Ukraine

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TGLS wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:26 am
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:14 am
TGLS wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 11:09 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 3:24 am
pilight wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:04 am It's probably accidental no matter whose it is. Neither side wants to admit their missile guidance is so poor that they hit the wrong country.


When is it ever a good time to take credit for death and destruction?

-food for thought.
When your goal is to create terror?
Ah, but wouldn't the terror have already been created?
Well if you want to terrify people you need to let them know who to be afraid of. And you need to tell who should be impressed.
Well what if you're the type of person that likes to let results speak for themselves? I do agree that cause has to be established.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-64408504
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/17 ... t-news-ont

The British are sending Challenger 2 tanks. The Americans are sending Abrams. The Germans are sending Leopards. And in other news, Lockheed is ramping up production of F-16s because the rumour is that we'll be sending jets next.

Putin needs to understand that he cannot win this. He has poked a sleeping NATO into action.
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Putin lost in the first two weeks. Arguably by the third day. The countries he was trying to intimidate away from joining NATO joined. The national reputation he was trying to buttress is shattered. The economy is in ruins. Even if his army finally wins in the field he doesn't have enough soldiers to occupy the whole country.

But if he stops he'll show too much weakness and loses the fear that keeps him safe in power, so he pours blood and lives uselessly into the dirt without end.
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At this rate he’d be lucky to hold Crimea, let alone keep any dirt in the Donbas
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hammerofglass wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:52 am Putin lost in the first two weeks. Arguably by the third day. The countries he was trying to intimidate away from joining NATO joined. The national reputation he was trying to buttress is shattered. The economy is in ruins. Even if his army finally wins in the field he doesn't have enough soldiers to occupy the whole country.

But if he stops he'll show too much weakness and loses the fear that keeps him safe in power, so he pours blood and lives uselessly into the dirt without end.
There is also alot of speculation on how much his military is left. As in hardware, trained and experienced officers and enlisted.
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