https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-63816454
San Francisco has voted to allow armed robots equipped with guns and explosives.
This is the best example of ''defund the police'' I have yet seen because the slippery slope absolutely applies here. It starts with ''we are only going to use our roaming pack of drones armed with C4 plastic explosives on only the most violent criminals'' and ends with it being used on much, much less. We've seen it, it happens, and it will happen.
BTW, I hasten to add here that having a police force that is more powerful than most armies is really only an America and a China thing.
San Francisco to allow police 'killer robots'
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Re: San Francisco to allow police 'killer robots'
Let's see, there is already a campaign group called Stop Killer Robots. . . Did this setup before or after the bill came in?
SFPD says they do not have 'killer' robots yet.
Linked article on robot used to kill a sniper indicates they used a bomb disposal robot to deliver a bomb close to a sniper trying to kill police officers and had already killed two of them. . .
I am not sure this is desensitizing. It was use a robot to get somewhere people couldn't. Not military grade drones sweeping the city waiting to snipe down anyone they desire.
SFPD says they do not have 'killer' robots yet.
Linked article on robot used to kill a sniper indicates they used a bomb disposal robot to deliver a bomb close to a sniper trying to kill police officers and had already killed two of them. . .
I am not sure this is desensitizing. It was use a robot to get somewhere people couldn't. Not military grade drones sweeping the city waiting to snipe down anyone they desire.
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Re: San Francisco to allow police 'killer robots'
How is arming police with more effective armament an example of defunding?
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Being a police officer is safer now than it ever has been. The problem is that everyone seems to have so gotten used to the idea that the job should be less dangerous that people now seem to expect it to have *no* danger.
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Re: San Francisco to allow police 'killer robots'
clearspira, I'm thinking you were meaning to say that it's an example of the slippery slope associated with the social movement of "defund the police"?
I would think that police institutions are tightening their conduct to give officers less discretion as to when to apply state sanctioned aggression.Frustration wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:22 pm Being a police officer is safer now than it ever has been. The problem is that everyone seems to have so gotten used to the idea that the job should be less dangerous that people now seem to expect it to have *no* danger.
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Re: San Francisco to allow police 'killer robots'
So they're talking and thinking about slightly improved "Goliath tracked mines", while the crowd thinks ED-209, Terminators and Skynet. That's the same bullshit that lead to Germany not aquiring the number one weapon system used successfully in Ukraine today: Militarized/armed drones. Gawd... 

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Re: San Francisco to allow police 'killer robots'
Really I’m disappointed it’s not Ed 209.
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Re: San Francisco to allow police 'killer robots'
can you elaborate.BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:45 am clearspira, I'm thinking you were meaning to say that it's an example of the slippery slope associated with the social movement of "defund the police"?
I would think that police institutions are tightening their conduct to give officers less discretion as to when to apply state sanctioned aggression.Frustration wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:22 pm Being a police officer is safer now than it ever has been. The problem is that everyone seems to have so gotten used to the idea that the job should be less dangerous that people now seem to expect it to have *no* danger.
Re: San Francisco to allow police 'killer robots'
Yes. ED-209. Future is here.
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Re: San Francisco to allow police 'killer robots'
I would say the problem is that, while the usefulness/ethics of an exploding drone are debatable for a military, a police department has no legitimate use case for an exploding robot, and the only possible applications are all police state tactics.Madner Kami wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 8:14 pm So they're talking and thinking about slightly improved "Goliath tracked mines", while the crowd thinks ED-209, Terminators and Skynet. That's the same bullshit that lead to Germany not aquiring the number one weapon system used successfully in Ukraine today: Militarized/armed drones. Gawd...![]()