Single Fix Idea for First Jurassic World Movie
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Single Fix Idea for First Jurassic World Movie
Instead of giving the Uber T-Rex a glorified raptor pen that the monster could conveniently hide in by common but concealed evolutionary trait, make it a park within the park with its own exhibitioner infrastructure for tourists (L-trains and subways). The idea would be that they were able to give the "not T-Rex" a proper hunting ground with a bunch of competitive vegetarians like triceratops packs and maybe a brachiosaurus beta quadrant. It'd echo the problems of the first movie, where they couldn't get the T-Rex to hunt by the human directive. The idea here would be that the monster learns the environment, and maybe some degree of the containment practices/procedures that the crew orchestrates.
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Re: Single Fix Idea for First Jurassic World Movie
Personally, I think the best fix for Jurassic world would have been to not have the dinosaurs escape, focus on showing off the dinosaur park, cut the runtime in half, and release it as Jurassic world, the imax experience.
But if we're really trying to salvage the movie by just tweaking the script a bit, there are quite a few issues I'd want to address first. For one, they know about the camouflage, but don't act like they do when it disappears. Also, if the military guys are trying to secretly engineer a raptor sized super dino, why make the early uncontrollable version both gigantic, and also your new main attraction?
Really, the whole military plot needed to be rethought. The better plan would have been for them to be waiting for the program to be ready, so that when the time comes they can cause an "accident" that releases the normal dinosaurs, only to have their dinosaurs come to the rescue. This would demonstrate effectiveness of their creations, and the control they have over them. But to be done right, you'd have to have the sabotage mechanism in place well in advance, hidden and waiting for the command. But of course, that's not something that the people maintaining the park would know about, and there would always be a risk that someone might find out about it and need to be dealt with. And if, for some reason, it was to go off early...
There's also the ongoing theme of control vs nature/chaos. They could have done a lot more with that by focusing less on the giant uber-rex, and more on the effort train and control dinosaurs. They could have attractions that are reminiscent of circus performances, taking the questions about the ethics of cloning extinct animals for an amusement park a step further. The military guys might have an early prototype with control mechanisms that attach AR displays to raptors, along with implants that inflict pain or release endorphins in order to train them to go where they want, perform tasks, and to understand friend vs foe, in contrast to the low tech training methods employed by our protagonist. If they have a super rex, they could have engineered it to be more controllable, only for its behavior to be more erratic and unpredictable when the control mechanism fails. We could have also shown multiple attempts at training the t-rex failing despite its intelligence, only for the climax to result in a change in the way the (now heavily injured) rex views Chris Pratt, allowing him to communicate a command to it, so that it backs off for an actual reason, and not just because the movie is over.
But if we're really trying to salvage the movie by just tweaking the script a bit, there are quite a few issues I'd want to address first. For one, they know about the camouflage, but don't act like they do when it disappears. Also, if the military guys are trying to secretly engineer a raptor sized super dino, why make the early uncontrollable version both gigantic, and also your new main attraction?
Really, the whole military plot needed to be rethought. The better plan would have been for them to be waiting for the program to be ready, so that when the time comes they can cause an "accident" that releases the normal dinosaurs, only to have their dinosaurs come to the rescue. This would demonstrate effectiveness of their creations, and the control they have over them. But to be done right, you'd have to have the sabotage mechanism in place well in advance, hidden and waiting for the command. But of course, that's not something that the people maintaining the park would know about, and there would always be a risk that someone might find out about it and need to be dealt with. And if, for some reason, it was to go off early...
There's also the ongoing theme of control vs nature/chaos. They could have done a lot more with that by focusing less on the giant uber-rex, and more on the effort train and control dinosaurs. They could have attractions that are reminiscent of circus performances, taking the questions about the ethics of cloning extinct animals for an amusement park a step further. The military guys might have an early prototype with control mechanisms that attach AR displays to raptors, along with implants that inflict pain or release endorphins in order to train them to go where they want, perform tasks, and to understand friend vs foe, in contrast to the low tech training methods employed by our protagonist. If they have a super rex, they could have engineered it to be more controllable, only for its behavior to be more erratic and unpredictable when the control mechanism fails. We could have also shown multiple attempts at training the t-rex failing despite its intelligence, only for the climax to result in a change in the way the (now heavily injured) rex views Chris Pratt, allowing him to communicate a command to it, so that it backs off for an actual reason, and not just because the movie is over.
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Re: Single Fix Idea for First Jurassic World Movie
The military plot existing is the problem that needs to be adressed. There're reasons for why we largely don't use animals in warfare anymore, except for some very specialized tasks, e.g. guard dogs and pack mules in mountainous environments. I don't see the issue that dinosaurs are supposed to adress, that a genegineered dog or pack mule can't solve with much less unpredictability.
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What's wrong with rich assholes just wanting a super spechul thing they can show off to their superrich "friends"?
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Re: Single Fix Idea for First Jurassic World Movie
That's the second movie tho.Madner Kami wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 9:29 pmWhat's wrong with rich assholes just wanting a super spechul thing they can show off to their superrich "friends"?
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Re: Single Fix Idea for First Jurassic World Movie
I have thought alot about Jurassic Park and Jurassic World and how to fix the movies aside from the original. My conclusion is that the first movie was lightning in the bottle and every movie after it was always destined to be not as good as the original.
As far as the military aspect.
Honestly any military option with whatever Dino they think of is doomed to failure.
What exactly did they plan on using any Dinosaur for? It's not like they can be used for precision strikes. Not like they can truly follow orders and/or plans.
Not like they are armored against gunfire. To me the best application for them is terrorism. Drop them off in a town and let them claw apart the civilians.
As far as the military aspect.
Honestly any military option with whatever Dino they think of is doomed to failure.
What exactly did they plan on using any Dinosaur for? It's not like they can be used for precision strikes. Not like they can truly follow orders and/or plans.
Not like they are armored against gunfire. To me the best application for them is terrorism. Drop them off in a town and let them claw apart the civilians.
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Well there also the resources problem, think about all the food resources and security needed just to keep one of those things under control. How many dozens solders could you train at the same expense as a few raptors which you have to raise for however long it takes for them to grow up, and hopefully not die of old age after a decade or two.
Re: Single Fix Idea for First Jurassic World Movie
That would be the same situation as dogs I would think. The differences are dogs are naturally friendly to humans. Man's best friend and all. Raptors aren't. We don't have tens of thousands of years of domestication like dogs. That and raptors would require more food than a dog too.Thebestoftherest wrote: ↑Sat Dec 31, 2022 6:49 pm Well there also the resources problem, think about all the food resources and security needed just to keep one of those things under control. How many dozens solders could you train at the same expense as a few raptors which you have to raise for however long it takes for them to grow up, and hopefully not die of old age after a decade or two.
Dogs are sometimes used in direct confrontations like running down a suspect. But for the most part dogs are used for their great smelling abilities.
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Re: Single Fix Idea for First Jurassic World Movie
That true, them again how much does your average dog eat compared to the needs of one of the raptors from the movies. (I using the movies raptors as an example, not the tint real life ones.)
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Re: Single Fix Idea for First Jurassic World Movie
Every time I wind up watching The Lost World for whatever reason I always come away feeling very strongly that they actually have an excellent movie there, not quite as good but really just a bit beneath the original - and then for whatever reason they tag a 1950s B movie onto the end of it. I really do think that up until the point when they leave the island it's an excellent film that would never be considered an Empire to the original's New Hope, but perhaps a Return of the Jedi. It's even got a feature length runtime to that point - and then the film just goes bonkers with the totally needless, pointless San Diego piece.
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Re: Single Fix Idea for First Jurassic World Movie
I like the tone and execution of the second movie much more than the third. Each movie takes a tone from the first movie, and I like the colder ones they went with in the second instead of the one laced with light-hearted family gags and slow down moments.Lazerlike42 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 3:10 amEvery time I wind up watching The Lost World for whatever reason I always come away feeling very strongly that they actually have an excellent movie there, not quite as good but really just a bit beneath the original - and then for whatever reason they tag a 1950s B movie onto the end of it. I really do think that up until the point when they leave the island it's an excellent film that would never be considered an Empire to the original's New Hope, but perhaps a Return of the Jedi. It's even got a feature length runtime to that point - and then the film just goes bonkers with the totally needless, pointless San Diego piece.
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