Trump Indicted.

[Madner Kami]

They haven't released what the 34 charges are yet but apparently it's mostly the false business reporting stuff that he's pretty openly admitted to.

It's been well known that Trump's business model has been about bending the rules, laws, finding loopholes, and if caught keep it in court for years until someone gives up.

Yes, I think it's a well known fact, that Trump is a rich person.

It's more than just that. He would intentionally not pay workers and let it go to court and keep that going until the people suing him gives up or takes a far smaller deal. He has done that many times before. Just as an example

I feel, that's the exact kind of behaviour you can and, in fact, should expect from anyone with a couple millions under their belt. The amount of rich and yet still decent, non-self-serving and non-vaingloric people can be counted on a single hand, that lost three fingers in a work-place accident.

[CmdrKing]

Trump distinguishes himself less in that he does these crimes and more in the brazenness and volume of his crimes. Most people as rich as he purports to be brag less about their crimes and how easy it is to do the crimes, which is why they do them in the open.
But because Trump is a terrible businessman he has to do way, waaaay more crimes in order to successfully maintain the illusion he’s a billionaire, which has the added consequence that he falls back into bigger crimes that are easier to catch once anyone actually starts doing the math.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

They haven't released what the 34 charges are yet but apparently it's mostly the false business reporting stuff that he's pretty openly admitted to.

It's been well known that Trump's business model has been about bending the rules, laws, finding loopholes, and if caught keep it in court for years until someone gives up.

Yes, I think it's a well known fact, that Trump is a rich person.

It's more than just that. He would intentionally not pay workers and let it go to court and keep that going until the people suing him gives up or takes a far smaller deal. He has done that many times before. Just as an example

I feel, that's the exact kind of behaviour you can and, in fact, should expect from anyone with a couple millions under their belt. The amount of rich and yet still decent, non-self-serving and non-vaingloric people can be counted on a single hand, that lost three fingers in a work-place accident.

Well, when you adjust for inflation it’s probably a lot more now.

[McAvoy]

Trump distinguishes himself less in that he does these crimes and more in the brazenness and volume of his crimes. Most people as rich as he purports to be brag less about their crimes and how easy it is to do the crimes, which is why they do them in the open.
But because Trump is a terrible businessman he has to do way, waaaay more crimes in order to successfully maintain the illusion he’s a billionaire, which has the added consequence that he falls back into bigger crimes that are easier to catch once anyone actually starts doing the math.

Pretty much this. All businesses and rich people will find loopholes and do something that morally wrong to save a buck or keep themselves out of prison. Trump just dialed that up to 11. I think it will be far harder to find something that Trump did that was a legit business deal that didn't screw over people, or legally gray.

And I knew about this back in the 90's as a kid when it was being reported in newspapers and on TV.

[Deledrius]

Oh, and didn't Bill Clinton also pay hush money to a woman he banged on the side? What's the difference here then?

Ah, well. Details. They couldn't prove that Trump rigged the election with Putin's help. They couldn't prove that he launched an insurrection. They couldn't make an impeachment stick. But they'll get him for having a bit of sausage on the side, damn it!

For those unaware of the context despite the copious reporting on it, the general consensus is that the charges being brought in this indictment aren't about hiring a prostitute/adult film actress. It starts with hiring said person and paying to keep it quiet when the campaign started, but then writing that payment off as a campaign expense and possibly not paying taxes on it, etc. I'm not a lawyer, a campaign finance expert, or a tax accountant, but my broad understanding is that in this chain of events there is at least campaign finance fraud and tax fraud, and therein lay the criminal offenses among many others. Given that this is Trump, there is likely to be charges of obstruction of justice sprinkled in liberally all along the events being examined.

The prostitute was simply the venue through which the crime was committed, but of course since it's (A) salacious to focus on it (B) the most trivial part, there's a lot of incentive for those opposed to Justice to focus on precisely that aspect and ignore or downplay the rest. For those on the right, she's the misdirection to keep the conversation away from the crimes and judging the case on its actual merits. Keeping it about her means they can make the DANY prosecution look petty, politically-motivated, and prudish in the minds of their audience.

We won't know for sure the exact details and scope until the charges are made public, of course, but there are numerous expert opinions available with speculation already that builds on the known facts exposed previously.

[Thebestoftherest]

What exactly does indicted mean in this case?

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Do you want to martyr Trump? Because this is how you martyr Trump.

Are you saying we should let it slide because the people who already love him will still love him? Come on man.

Anyway I hope he gets the maximum sentence.

[TGLS]

What exactly does indicted mean in this case?

In theory, Trump will be arrested and will have to face the charges In court.

[Deledrius]

What exactly does indicted mean in this case?

It's the first step in formally charging someone with one or more crimes, as determined by a Grand Jury.

[Thebestoftherest]

That sounds important.