Russell Howard: There Is NO Culture War

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Re: Russell Howard: There Is NO Culture War

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Maybe a better title would be "the culture war is artificial outraged manufactured by one side to provide smokescreens and scapegoats."
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:09 am Maybe a better title would be "the culture war is artificial outraged manufactured by one side to provide smokescreens and scapegoats."
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Re: Russell Howard: There Is NO Culture War

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There is something. It’s not a war, and the media didn’t just create it.

People fight all the time but it’s just sandbox rhetoric more than 99% of the time concerning people neither of whom aren’t looking for new information to consider.

The media will capitalize on that for sure, but there’s no bipartisan discourse aside from that concerning democrats and republicans.
..What mirror universe?
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Re: Russell Howard: There Is NO Culture War

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ProfessorDetective wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 2:02 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:09 am Maybe a better title would be "the culture war is artificial outraged manufactured by one side to provide smokescreens and scapegoats."
Astroturf to feed the Right-Wing's Bull in the Left-Wing's China Shop.
That's a interesting way to describe it. I wonder if I can apply it to other things...
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Re: Russell Howard: There Is NO Culture War

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ProfessorDetective wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 2:02 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:09 am Maybe a better title would be "the culture war is artificial outraged manufactured by one side to provide smokescreens and scapegoats."
Astroturf to feed the Right-Wing's Bull in the Left-Wing's China Shop.
The Right is powerful yet easily enraged whilst the Left is weak and fragile?
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Re: Russell Howard: There Is NO Culture War

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clearspira wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 7:51 am
ProfessorDetective wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 2:02 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:09 am Maybe a better title would be "the culture war is artificial outraged manufactured by one side to provide smokescreens and scapegoats."
Astroturf to feed the Right-Wing's Bull in the Left-Wing's China Shop.
The Right is powerful yet easily enraged whilst the Left is weak and fragile?
Pretty much, sadly.
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Re: Russell Howard: There Is NO Culture War

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clearspira wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 7:51 am
ProfessorDetective wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 2:02 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:09 am Maybe a better title would be "the culture war is artificial outraged manufactured by one side to provide smokescreens and scapegoats."
Astroturf to feed the Right-Wing's Bull in the Left-Wing's China Shop.
The Right is powerful yet easily enraged whilst the Left is weak and fragile?
If we're sticking with over-simplified left and right labels, the left has fallen off the deep end into self-absorbed extremist self-righteous idiocy, based on starting from a decent position and becoming extremely dogmatic and brainless about it, and unsurprisingly the rather odious right is the first to react.
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Re: Russell Howard: There Is NO Culture War

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Riedquat wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 7:14 pm
clearspira wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 7:51 am
ProfessorDetective wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 2:02 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:09 am Maybe a better title would be "the culture war is artificial outraged manufactured by one side to provide smokescreens and scapegoats."
Astroturf to feed the Right-Wing's Bull in the Left-Wing's China Shop.
The Right is powerful yet easily enraged whilst the Left is weak and fragile?
If we're sticking with over-simplified left and right labels, the left has fallen off the deep end into self-absorbed extremist self-righteous idiocy, based on starting from a decent position and becoming extremely dogmatic and brainless about it, and unsurprisingly the rather odious right is the first to react.
I assume the leftists you're encountering aren't the "Stop trying to make it illegal for us to even exist! We just want to live our lives in peace, damnit!" leftists I'm a part of?

I'm also part of the "Do we REALLY need billionheirs?" and the "Do the police/military need THIS much funding? Are the APCs and SWAT gear for beat cops REALLY necessary?" leftists, for the record.
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Re: Russell Howard: There Is NO Culture War

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Just anyone who takes a overly simple, black and white one extreme or the other view of the world, usually characterised by "anyone who doesn't 100% agree with me is intolerant scum at the other extreme." That's the usual level of discourse these days.
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Riedquat wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 2:26 am Just anyone who takes a overly simple, black and white one extreme or the other view of the world, usually characterised by "anyone who doesn't 100% agree with me is intolerant scum at the other extreme." That's the usual level of discourse these days.
My enemies are folks like DeSantis and Carlson, pushing anti-LGBT+, anti-education, and anti-bodily-autonomy rhetoric/legislation in the USA. If you aren't aligned with THAT garbage, then I have no issues with you.

I don't need to completely agree with someone to have a conversation with them. But there's no point in bothering with people who completely DISagree with me. Especially when the disagreement is whether or not some of my friends have the right to even EXIST in this country.
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