This is for topical issues effecting our fair world... you can quit snickering anytime. Note: It is the desire of the leadership of SFDebris Conglomerate that all posters maintain a civil and polite bearing in this forum, regardless of how you feel about any particular issue. Violators will be turned over to Captain Janeway for experimentation.
CmdrKing wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 10:12 pm
At that point you're probably better off admitting you have a growing problem with domestic groups out to destabilize the government, it manages to look less bad than the catastrophic military incompetence if it was actually Ukrainian military/intelligence.
And was it not America that spent three times as long in Vietnam for the colonial purposes of its Allies no less?
CmdrKing wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 10:12 pm
At that point you're probably better off admitting you have a growing problem with domestic groups out to destabilize the government, it manages to look less bad than the catastrophic military incompetence if it was actually Ukrainian military/intelligence.
And was it not America that spent three times as long in Vietnam for the colonial purposes of its Allies no less?
Sorry, I had to throw in some whataboutism.
More than that, America had boots on the ground in Vietnam for thirteen years.
...for space is wide, and good friends are too few.
CmdrKing wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 10:12 pm
At that point you're probably better off admitting you have a growing problem with domestic groups out to destabilize the government, it manages to look less bad than the catastrophic military incompetence if it was actually Ukrainian military/intelligence.
And was it not America that spent three times as long in Vietnam for the colonial purposes of its Allies no less?
Sorry, I had to throw in some whataboutism.
More than that, America had boots on the ground in Vietnam for thirteen years.
Joke would still be good a year and a half from now.
CmdrKing wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 10:12 pm
At that point you're probably better off admitting you have a growing problem with domestic groups out to destabilize the government, it manages to look less bad than the catastrophic military incompetence if it was actually Ukrainian military/intelligence.
And was it not America that spent three times as long in Vietnam for the colonial purposes of its Allies no less?
Sorry, I had to throw in some whataboutism.
More than that, America had boots on the ground in Vietnam for thirteen years.
Joke would still be good a year and a half from now.
Probably get a chance, doubt they'll be home by Christmas.
...for space is wide, and good friends are too few.
CmdrKing wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 10:12 pm
At that point you're probably better off admitting you have a growing problem with domestic groups out to destabilize the government, it manages to look less bad than the catastrophic military incompetence if it was actually Ukrainian military/intelligence.
And was it not America that spent three times as long in Vietnam for the colonial purposes of its Allies no less?
Sorry, I had to throw in some whataboutism.
That's not whataboutism. That's not even tangentialism. What are you on about?
"If you get shot up by an A6M Reisen and your plane splits into pieces - does that mean it's divided by Zero?
- xoxSAUERKRAUTxox
CmdrKing wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 10:12 pm
At that point you're probably better off admitting you have a growing problem with domestic groups out to destabilize the government, it manages to look less bad than the catastrophic military incompetence if it was actually Ukrainian military/intelligence.
And was it not America that spent three times as long in Vietnam for the colonial purposes of its Allies no less?
Sorry, I had to throw in some whataboutism.
That's not whataboutism. That's not even tangentialism. What are you on about?
I’m fairly certain it’s consistent through and through, save for the fact that could was not speaking on behalf of us state.
phantom000 wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 5:54 pmThey certainly caused a lot of trouble for the defenders in question, not to mention it was the Allied bombing offensive that crippled the Axis military in WW2 and pushed back the North Koreans in 1950. If conquering Ukraine out right is not an option Putin could try bombing them into accepted some kind of settlement, which is kinda-sorta what happened near the end of the Vietnam War.
52 out of 54 Shaheds were intercepted.
1944 was the year with the highest production of military goods in Germany during the 1933-1945 era.
They certainly built enough aircraft during the war but they ran into issues like fuel and trained pilots. Especially in 1944 where the Allies had highly trained and experienced pilots where as Germany had neither by that point.
CmdrKing wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 10:12 pm
At that point you're probably better off admitting you have a growing problem with domestic groups out to destabilize the government, it manages to look less bad than the catastrophic military incompetence if it was actually Ukrainian military/intelligence.
And was it not America that spent three times as long in Vietnam for the colonial purposes of its Allies no less?
Sorry, I had to throw in some whataboutism.
More than that, America had boots on the ground in Vietnam for thirteen years.
I doubt Putin will live for another thirteen years. Once he is maggot food, whoever takes over will withdraw from Ukraine. At this point this war with Ukraine is only because of pride.
At first I was a little surprised that South Africa of all places getting involved in the peace process but there is some logic behind it; neutral third party and all that. Putin insists it is Ukraine's fault for ignoring any attempts at diplomatic negotiations. There might be a drop of truth to that, the big counter attack seems to finally be underway and if successful it would improve Ukraine's position so they might be waiting to see how much damage they can do to Russian forces. I mean it is hard to demand annexation of territory that you can't even occupy.
