Biden running again.

[ProfessorDetective]

Personally (ordered by dates): Jackson (crazy wannabe dictator), Wilson (gave us Segregation, was a big proponent of Manifest Destiny, AND kept use out of WWI), Nixon (Watergate, et all), both Bushes (Iran-Contra and the Iraq War, respectively), Trump (A LOT of garbage but possible High Treason is at the top of the list). Those are most people's candidates for "Worst POTUS", right?

[Madner Kami]

Personally (ordered by dates): Jackson (crazy wannabe dictator), Wilson (gave us Segregation, was a big proponent of Manifest Destiny, AND kept use out of WWI), Nixon (Watergate, et all), both Bushes (Iran-Contra and the Iraq War, respectively), Trump (A LOT of garbage but possible High Treason is at the top of the list). Those are most people's candidates for "Worst POTUS", right?

Buchanon and Johnson. Both for their appeasement of militant slavers.

[CmdrKing]

The main list is Jackson (genocidal dictator who spent his entire presidency rapidly escalating the power of the rich and most especially the slaveowner class), Reagan (genocidal puppet whose administration destroyed Latin America and rapidly enacted the deregulation nightmare whose wealth transfer is still in place to this day) and Johnson (his sabotage of reconstruction allowed the South’s century plus victory in the civil war). There’s many dishonorable mentions, few to none of the presidents didn’t escalate at least one American imperial atrocity or another, but in terms of really ramping things up those three are the worst.

(In the interest of specificity, you can reasonably argue that ignoring AIDS does not meet the formal definition of genocide. But given the neglect was specifically motivated by the belief the disease was limited to a specific population and the actual impact of it, I’m willing to describe Reagan and his people as seeking that outcome.)

[McAvoy]

Yeah I haven't heard anything of significance about Taft either. What did he do that makes him worse than Reagan?

The only significant thing I know about Taft outside his weight is him getting stuck in his bathtub.

I might even be wrong about that

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

The main list is Jackson (genocidal dictator who spent his entire presidency rapidly escalating the power of the rich and most especially the slaveowner class), Reagan (genocidal puppet whose administration destroyed Latin America and rapidly enacted the deregulation nightmare whose wealth transfer is still in place to this day) and Johnson (his sabotage of reconstruction allowed the South’s century plus victory in the civil war). There’s many dishonorable mentions, few to none of the presidents didn’t escalate at least one American imperial atrocity or another, but in terms of really ramping things up those three are the worst.

(In the interest of specificity, you can reasonably argue that ignoring AIDS does not meet the formal definition of genocide. But given the neglect was specifically motivated by the belief the disease was limited to a specific population and the actual impact of it, I’m willing to describe Reagan and his people as seeking that outcome.)

Do you have a resource available handy on this?

[Frustration]

We could just as easily argue that the homosexuals who fought the attempts to stop the spread of HIV were engaged in genocide.

This is a great example of how the "conservative/liberal" divide approaches personal responsibility in different ways.

[Madner Kami]

the homosexuals who fought the attempts to stop the spread of HIV

Erm, who?

[McAvoy]

the homosexuals who fought the attempts to stop the spread of HIV

Erm, who?

Yeah I am confused about this as you are.

[Madner Kami]

the homosexuals who fought the attempts to stop the spread of HIV

Erm, who?

Yeah I am confused about this as you are.

I'm certain he'll come up with a fringe sociopath, who fucked other people knowing he'd transfer AIDS, pretending that it prooves something.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

We could just as easily argue that the homosexuals who fought the attempts to stop the spread of HIV were engaged in genocide.

This is a great example of how the "conservative/liberal" divide approaches personal responsibility in different ways.

Depends upon the outcome of their actions, given their position with the arguably disenfranchised group. People are allowed to stick up for themselves and they will often go to an understandably drastic extent in doing so.

There’s two sides to everything, but equating them when the projected values of each side are not at all common in the positions they’re coming from is inaccurate.