Star Trek Strange New Worlds (Season 2)

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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:02 pm Of course you do. What else would I expect from Mr. "Black doctors in television are unrealistic because there aren't enough smart black people for the job"?
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Frustration wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:12 pmBuffy the Vampire Slayer wasn't a problem in itself, but it kind of marked the beginning of the problem. At first it was unusual and surprising that a female protagonist had massive combat capabilities, explicitly because of paranormal forces, but eventually it became common for normal-appearing women to be portrayed as regularly defeating large and muscular men in hand-to-hand combat, which is simply absurd.
It's absurd for one man to be able to defeat more than one attacker simultaneously in general. However, it's part of the fantasy to be able to do impossible things like outrun explosions, gunfire, and take down small armies.

Mind you, small women kicking ass is a fetish for a large portion of the MALE audience and that has been why it was always a huge thing in Anime and Chinese live action productions.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SheFu

The West just started catching up that it was audience pleasing.
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Frustration wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:12 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:02 pm Of course you do. What else would I expect from Mr. "Black doctors in television are unrealistic because there aren't enough smart black people for the job"?
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Xena pre-dates Buffy by a few years. Regular human as far as we can tell able to fight gods and demi-gods on equal or better footing. Her side-kick also eventually would be able to do this too.

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McAvoy wrote: Sat Jul 22, 2023 3:26 am Xena pre-dates Buffy by a few years. Regular human as far as we can tell able to fight gods and demi-gods on equal or better footing. Her side-kick also eventually would be able to do this too.

Just saying
The era of the female action star was also predated by comic books.

Batgirl was on television in the Sixties even if she did kicks.
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CharlesPhipps wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:20 pm
Frustration wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:12 pmBuffy the Vampire Slayer wasn't a problem in itself, but it kind of marked the beginning of the problem. At first it was unusual and surprising that a female protagonist had massive combat capabilities, explicitly because of paranormal forces, but eventually it became common for normal-appearing women to be portrayed as regularly defeating large and muscular men in hand-to-hand combat, which is simply absurd.
It's absurd for one man to be able to defeat more than one attacker simultaneously in general. However, it's part of the fantasy to be able to do impossible things like outrun explosions, gunfire, and take down small armies.

Mind you, small women kicking ass is a fetish for a large portion of the MALE audience and that has been why it was always a huge thing in Anime and Chinese live action productions.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SheFu

The West just started catching up that it was audience pleasing.
Yeah, this. Most men cannot fight more than two guys at once and anyone who thinks otherwise has never been in a real fight.

Its part of the fantasy. And whilst we're on the subject, the entire world that this people live in is unrealistic. Handguns with thirty rounds a mag, car doors that can be used as bullet sponges, the flesh wound to the shoulder, getting smacked around the head and just falling asleep instead of getting a brain bleed. Compared to all of that, is a woman beating up a man really all that egregious?

Reality kind of sucks. That's why we invented fiction to begin with.
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They dropped a trailer at SDCC for the August 3 episode... I am not looking forward to it.

youtu.be/bg3-CgRitwc

Why? Why a musical episode?!?
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Because it looks fun.

Why a gangster episode?

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McAvoy wrote: Sat Jul 22, 2023 3:26 am
Frustration wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:12 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:02 pm Of course you do. What else would I expect from Mr. "Black doctors in television are unrealistic because there aren't enough smart black people for the job"?
You're getting closer. Keep on trying and eventually you'll successfully comprehend the argument!

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Xena pre-dates Buffy by a few years. Regular human as far as we can tell able to fight gods and demi-gods on equal or better footing. Her side-kick also eventually would be able to do this too.

Just saying
Actually there's some ambiguity about it but she may be a demigod herself.

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CharlesPhipps wrote: Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:50 pmBecause it looks fun.

Why a gangster episode?
I have never been a fan of musicals and this level of cheese seems too much.

Also found this cast photo and I'm scared of Spock!
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m4a2000 wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 12:38 am Also found this cast photo and I'm scared of Spock!
It has to be the eyebrows or something. All smiling Spocks seem wrong.
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