Hamas Attacks Israel

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

The CIA was probably too busy committing atrocities in South America.

[CharlesPhipps]

The CIA was probably too busy committing atrocities in South America.

Don't be parochial. The CIA moved to the Middle East a long way back!

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

So the world health organization has officially called Israel's "evacuation orders" to Gaza hospitals a death sentence. https://www.who.int/news/item/14-10-202 ... nd-injured Guess we're moving to the boming hospitals stage of the ethnic cleansing.

[phantom000]

Egypt is trying to get involved on the humanitarian front, but even for that Israel is causing problems.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/co ... 44bc&ei=11

[CharlesPhipps]

Netanyahu really wants to go utterly horrifying here and everyone wanting to stop a massacre of civilians is ruining his use of this as cassus belli.

[clearspira]

Netanyahu really wants to go utterly horrifying here and everyone wanting to stop a massacre of civilians is ruining his use of this as cassus belli.

We are also getting numerous reports that Hamas are actively preventing civilians from leaving Gaza or receiving aid just so the death toll mounts. Let us not get so black and white here. These people are being used as human shields just so people like you think exactly that. Hamas does not care about the Palestinians. They only care about what is written in their founding manifesto in 1988: the deaths of all Jews young and old anywhere and everywhere. You can Google what it says right now and yet so many people do not seem to have done just this.

Here's a nice one:

Rejection of a Negotiated Peace Settlement:

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'[Peace] initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and

international conferences are in contradiction to the principles of

the Islamic Resistance Movement... Those conferences are no more than

a means to appoint the infidels as arbitrators in the lands of

Islam... There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by

Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are but a

waste of time, an exercise in futility.' (Article 13)

[clearspira]

You know what? You people who seem to think peace is an option despite a founding manifesto that contains shit like that are the same people who in the 1930s thought peace with Hitler had a chance even though he had already spelled out his intentions in his own handwriting.

“Not every German who bought a copy of Mein Kampf necessarily read it … But it might be argued that had more non-Nazi Germans read it before 1933 and had the foreign statesmen of the world perused it carefully while there was still time, both Germany and the world might have been saved from catastrophe.”

— William L. Shirer, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich

[MightyDavidson]

Clearspira, did you perhaps miss the part where Israel was bombing civilian targets, thus killing far more babies then HAMAS? Did you not notice how Israel openly admits to cutting all supplies to the Gaza Strip thus starving innocent people and requiring hospital personnel to scavenge for gas in order to keep generators running so they don't lose patients in the ICU? Innocent people are dying and Israel is taking active steps to prevent humanitarian aid from getting to those who need it. Surely you realize these are war crimes that Israel is comitting right?

Israel is not the "good guy" in this situation, I don't know if there even is a good guy in this situation due to how complicated it is.

[Madner Kami]

Clearspira, did you perhaps miss the part where Israel was bombing civilian targets, thus killing far more babies then HAMAS? Did you not notice how Israel openly admits to cutting all supplies to the Gaza Strip thus starving innocent people and requiring hospital personnel to scavenge for gas in order to keep generators running so they don't lose patients in the ICU? Innocent people are dying and Israel is taking active steps to prevent humanitarian aid from getting to those who need it. Surely you realize these are war crimes that Israel is comitting right?

Israel is not the "good guy" in this situation, I don't know if there even is a good guy in this situation due to how complicated it is.

No he doesn't forget that. He's merely posing a question to you: Does Israel not have a right to defend themselves? Or, rather: How the hell is Israel supposed to defend itself, when their only choice is to attack civilian targets, because Hamas uses them to shield themselves from retaliation? I'll answer that question for you: If a military uses a civilian structure, it becomes a legitimate military target. That's acknowledged, international law.

And on that note: There are no "good guys" left in the Levant. Just a lot of mislead, rightfully distrustful and angry people, who're being ground to dust between the interests of extremists with opposing views.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Nothing Hamas does negates what Israel is doing to maximize civilian deaths and obstruct humanitarian aid. You keep coming up with things about Hamas as if any of this lessens Israel's attempt at ethnic cleansing on a civilian population, most of whom have nothing to do with Hamas. FFS, you're defending hospital bombers.