The question was does he think Fascism can be good or acceptable, because I really need to know that before I decide whether to take anything he says seriously.
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Meanwhile the IDF is shooting hostages with white flags because they thought they were Palestinian civillians. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/3-hostages ... tary-says/
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He already said it makes the trains run on time and being a collaborator is fine actually, I don't know how much of a clearer "yes" you want from him.Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 12:32 amThe question was does he think Fascism can be good or acceptable, because I really need to know that before I decide whether to take anything he says seriously.
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Asked Italy how well things works under a facist regime when they were fighting in ww2.
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Conveniently, feudal monarchies like the one UK abandoned 40 years before fascism came about is not on the list of considerable political systems.
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I honestly want to believe the answer is "No".hammerofglass wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:57 amHe already said it makes the trains run on time and being a collaborator is fine actually, I don't know how much of a clearer "yes" you want from him.Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 12:32 amThe question was does he think Fascism can be good or acceptable, because I really need to know that before I decide whether to take anything he says seriously.
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I call my members of congress asking them to push for ceasefire. I submitted a short story to a charity anthology in support of Palestine. I went to a protest. It doesn't feel like nearly enough.
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I already gave you my answer to this. Life is not black and white, life is grey. I think what you think sitting in your nice warm armchair with a nice steaming cup o' joe in your hand is actually kind of irrelevant compared to those who actually have to face toil and hardship. I think you currently have a limited understanding as to why good people sometimes vote for the Devil.Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:11 pmI honestly want to believe the answer is "No".hammerofglass wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:57 amHe already said it makes the trains run on time and being a collaborator is fine actually, I don't know how much of a clearer "yes" you want from him.Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 12:32 amThe question was does he think Fascism can be good or acceptable, because I really need to know that before I decide whether to take anything he says seriously.
If I may, it is this inability to see the grey and brand the other side as ''evil'' for their beliefs is why you are teetering on another Donald Trump presidency. Not all of those people who voted for him stormed the capital or go around chanting wearing red hats. A lot of them are just normal people who made a choice based on his promises. And those people have been pretty much forgotten over the last four years as far as I can tell.
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You know who you remind me of? Major Kira. And that isn't a compliment. ''If they are not with us then they are against us.'' You would have done very well in post-war France shaving the heads of all of the women who ''collaborated'' with the German officers.hammerofglass wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:57 amFuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 12:32 amThe question was does he think Fascism can be good or acceptable, because I really need to know that before I decide whether to take anything he says seriously.
He already said it makes the trains run on time and being a collaborator is fine actually, I don't know how much of a clearer "yes" you want from him.
Is that going a bit too far? No apologies. Read my response to Fuzzy, nothing is that black and white. Some collaborators are rubber stampers, some collaborators are snitches, and some collaborators are so out of necessity or because they had no choice. So yeah. I do think that being a collaborator is ''fine actually''. And I also think that it is ''not fine actually''. It depends on the circumstances. Not everyone gets to be the hero, this isn't Hollywood. Its real life.
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If we're going there I think you would have done very well in occupied France loading people like me onto trains and would have been honestly surprised when they came for you and you got what all Quislings eventually get as thanks. [[Edit: this was supposed to be about the Nazis turning on you, reading it back that's not how it comes across, mea culpa]] And frankly I think you know that and know who you're standing to be counted with IRL.clearspira wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:06 pmYou know who you remind me of? Major Kira. And that isn't a compliment. ''If they are not with us then they are against us.'' You would have done very well in post-war France shaving the heads of all of the women who ''collaborated'' with the German officers.hammerofglass wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:57 amFuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 12:32 amThe question was does he think Fascism can be good or acceptable, because I really need to know that before I decide whether to take anything he says seriously.
He already said it makes the trains run on time and being a collaborator is fine actually, I don't know how much of a clearer "yes" you want from him.
Is that going a bit too far? No apologies. Read my response to Fuzzy, nothing is that black and white. Some collaborators are rubber stampers, some collaborators are snitches, and some collaborators are so out of necessity or because they had no choice. So yeah. I do think that being a collaborator is ''fine actually''. And I also think that it is ''not fine actually''. It depends on the circumstances. Not everyone gets to be the hero, this isn't Hollywood. Its real life.
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