Chekov and North Korea

[McAvoy]

This is a thought stolen from tumblr user spock's evil grandmother, but like, it took BALLS to include Chekov in Star Trek. Can you imagine a New Trek show having a character from North Korea?

1) Did it take balls to include Chekov in Star Trek? Not as much a black woman on the bridge during a time when being against civil rights could still carry several states. The ''Southern Strategy'' is an interesting yet disturbing read if you want to give it a go.

The fact is that Uhura and Sulu were created to depict the interracial future of Star Trek. Chekov was created according to Koenig because the Monkees were popular at the time and Roddenberry wanted a male cast member who looked like Davy Jones. I've tried my best to try and find any reason at all why he is Russian but found nothing but conflicting reports. There is one mention of the Russians themselves complaining that the ''great interracial future of Star Trek contains no Russians'' which would mean that it required no balls on Roddenberry's part at all. Another suggests that Roddenberry wanted to honour the achievements of the Russian space program. Both sources seem very sketchy about their sources.

Roddenberry tended to change stories depending on the crowd he was talking to playing to. Would not surprise me that him wanting to honor the Russian space program was a later story he made up.

I think the idea was to have Pavel be more like a proto Wesley Crusher to showcase the scientific savviness that Soviet ideology prevailed in.

What? He never showed even sliver of that.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

This is a thought stolen from tumblr user spock's evil grandmother, but like, it took BALLS to include Chekov in Star Trek. Can you imagine a New Trek show having a character from North Korea?

1) Did it take balls to include Chekov in Star Trek? Not as much a black woman on the bridge during a time when being against civil rights could still carry several states. The ''Southern Strategy'' is an interesting yet disturbing read if you want to give it a go.

The fact is that Uhura and Sulu were created to depict the interracial future of Star Trek. Chekov was created according to Koenig because the Monkees were popular at the time and Roddenberry wanted a male cast member who looked like Davy Jones. I've tried my best to try and find any reason at all why he is Russian but found nothing but conflicting reports. There is one mention of the Russians themselves complaining that the ''great interracial future of Star Trek contains no Russians'' which would mean that it required no balls on Roddenberry's part at all. Another suggests that Roddenberry wanted to honour the achievements of the Russian space program. Both sources seem very sketchy about their sources.

Roddenberry tended to change stories depending on the crowd he was talking to playing to. Would not surprise me that him wanting to honor the Russian space program was a later story he made up.

I think the idea was to have Pavel be more like a proto Wesley Crusher to showcase the scientific savviness that Soviet ideology prevailed in.

What? He never showed even sliver of that.

Nonetheless that was what the narrative dictated.

According to Roddenberry, he is "an extraordinarily capable young man—almost Spock's equal in some areas. An honor graduate of the Space Academy."[6] Chekov also substitutes for Mr. Spock at the science officer station when necessary.

[Madner Kami]

Just another instance of "Never listen to Roddenberry and his nonsense. Great idea-giver, bad idea-developer, worse idea-realizer."

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Hey hey it's the monkees. People say I monkee around.

[McAvoy]

Just another instance of "Never listen to Roddenberry and his nonsense. Great idea-giver, bad idea-developer, worse idea-realizer."

The way I look at it, the older the source of what Roddenberry has said the more likely it will be true. The further he got from TOS airing, the more likely he would add on more to his his own mythology of himself.

[Deledrius]

The further he got from TOS airing, the more likely he would add on more to his his own mythology of himself.

That's the impression I've gotten as well.

[Nobody700]

To kinda quote what one person said here, would we have someone from North Korea be in a star trek show? Course we would.

They'd also not be a part of the Totalitarian aspect of it cause it would be gone, and just be the northern part of Korea.

[Thebestoftherest]

To kinda quote what one person said here, would we have someone from North Korea be in a star trek show? Course we would.

They'd also not be a part of the Totalitarian aspect of it cause it would be gone, and just be the northern part of Korea.

Assuming Russia and or China didn't annexed it into their own country before the end of World War 3.

[McAvoy]

To kinda quote what one person said here, would we have someone from North Korea be in a star trek show? Course we would.

They'd also not be a part of the Totalitarian aspect of it cause it would be gone, and just be the northern part of Korea.

Assuming Russia and or China didn't annexed it into their own country before the end of World War 3.

Even then by 23rd or 24th century, would they really belong to Russia or China by that point? Or would somewhere down the line would have North Korea been freed is now just a geographical location on Earth? As in northern part of the Korean peninsula?

Makes you wonder if there is any representation of these old world states that forms part of some Earth government as a world. Like states of the Earth that has a central head of some kind that is represented in the Federation Council as a Earth representative.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

To kinda quote what one person said here, would we have someone from North Korea be in a star trek show? Course we would.

They'd also not be a part of the Totalitarian aspect of it cause it would be gone, and just be the northern part of Korea.

Assuming Russia and or China didn't annexed it into their own country before the end of World War 3.

So now you're adding more hypothetical occupational scenarios to speculate how it'd fit into a completely post colonial world?