Chekov and North Korea

[hammerofglass]

They'd probably handle it like they handle Worf's family. USSR? Russia? Belarus? Nah, just Minsk.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

They'd probably handle it like they handle Worf's family. USSR? Russia? Belarus? Nah, just Minsk.

Right. I'm not really familiar with that as well, if that's what phantom was referring to.

edit: sorry wrong thread lol.

[Deledrius]

It does make a certain kind of sense for people to be more attached to the local geography like big cities once you get to a point where the old regionalisms dissipate. I'm sure a lot of the old names would stick around though, even if they don't exist as a country anymore the region would still retain a cultural identity and it would likely carry that name.

[McAvoy]

Right. We are talking about 240 to 340 years from now when we are talking about how Earth would be under Star Trek's timeline. That is plenty of time for people to basically age out the concept of old state lines of where one country ends and another begins. Especially if we are to believe that First Contact and Warp Drive somehow brings the planet together after a major World War.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Right. We are talking about 240 to 340 years from now when we are talking about how Earth would be under Star Trek's timeline. That is plenty of time for people to basically age out the concept of old state lines of where one country ends and another begins. Especially if we are to believe that First Contact and Warp Drive somehow brings the planet together after a major World War.

The discovery of an advanced alien race would definitely change both progressive and conservative or collectivist/individual prerogatives on a socially foundational level. I think Zac Snyder's Superman take would be an overlooked hurdle in the Star Trek universe between first contact and therefor.

[phantom000]

Actually that raise a second question. Would the united federation still refer to people by lines on a map made centuries or even millennia ago?

It is often argued that a country is not just about lines on a map but a shared identity and cultural heritage. So even if Earth is 'one nation' there would still be many different countries, because those two things aren't exactly the same thing.

This is something we see several times int he franchise; Scotty, Sisko, Chakotay, Uhura are all examples of people with different cultural backgrounds but all of them are clearly Federation citizens (Yes, Chakotay is a Maquis but you could argue they never see themselves as separate from the Federation, only Starfleet).

[clearspira]

Right. We are talking about 240 to 340 years from now when we are talking about how Earth would be under Star Trek's timeline. That is plenty of time for people to basically age out the concept of old state lines of where one country ends and another begins. Especially if we are to believe that First Contact and Warp Drive somehow brings the planet together after a major World War.

The discovery of an advanced alien race would definitely change both progressive and conservative or collectivist/individual prerogatives on a socially foundational level. I think Zac Snyder's Superman take would be an overlooked hurdle in the Star Trek universe between first contact and therefor.

I really hope that Chuck reviews the film ''Contact'' one day. Aliens arriving causes so much social upheaval that the government decides to deny it ever happened.

Every day, man. Every day I see Agent K's words from Men in Black affirmed and i'm not even kidding. I actually find the opening of the Mirror Universe episode where Cochrane grabs a shotgun and blows the Vulcans away to be far more likely than a new era of peace and love.

James: But why? Why the big secret? People are smart. They can handle it.
Agent K: A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it.

[McAvoy]

Right. We are talking about 240 to 340 years from now when we are talking about how Earth would be under Star Trek's timeline. That is plenty of time for people to basically age out the concept of old state lines of where one country ends and another begins. Especially if we are to believe that First Contact and Warp Drive somehow brings the planet together after a major World War.

The discovery of an advanced alien race would definitely change both progressive and conservative or collectivist/individual prerogatives on a socially foundational level. I think Zac Snyder's Superman take would be an overlooked hurdle in the Star Trek universe between first contact and therefor.

It would be. Sure. We are not alone in the universe and especially with a species that looks so much like humans in the first place like Vulcans. Plus they are peaceful.

Personally I doubt all of humanity or even most of it would rise up as a whole. FTL opens things up but still would take years to get anywhere. Sure Vulcans are there.

I would think more of the religious implications of it all. Religious people tend to not like change. Earth First would easily come around.

I suppose if Earth was decimated after WW3 perhaps even more so than the one 600 million figure suggests, total collapse of governments, a near post apocalyptic world might unite over this.