I think I made my feelings on Disney's Wish pretty clear when I made a point of saying that I felt Raya and the Last Dragon would have been better suited for a 100th Anniversary film for the company. Wish is a very average movie which is ultimately it's worse crime, it's just not as good as it could have been and as a film that is suppose to be celebrating a company that has impacted pop-culture for a literal century that is just embracing. Made worse by the earlier concepts being shown and showing what seems to be a superior movie.
But I have seen a lot of videos that just have me rolling my eyes like King Magnifico being the worst villain in Disney History, or Asha being the worst hero in Disney history and this being the single worst Disney film that has ever and will ever exist. To which I say, no he's not, no she's not and have you EVER seen Chicken Little or Home on the Range? Clearly you haven't because you would not have said such foolish things.
Worst villain I would say goes to Buck Cluck, worst hero goes to The Main Trio in Home on the Range and worst overall film is a tie between Home on the Range and Chicken Little. These are films I not only dislike but are objectivity bad. They have unlikable or just flat out annoying characters, idiot plots, forgettable villains, and HORRIBLE PARENTS. Anyone who's seen the film like knows that Buck Cluck isn't actually the villain of the film he's in, Chicken Little, but frankly he's WORSE then the villains of the film. He is a horrible father who helps to ruin his son's life just to make himself look better and is boarderline abusive to him. FUCK THAT GUY IN THE THROAT!!!
At least with Wish the characters are generally likable, at least Chris Pine is having teh time of his life and there's AN IDEA For a good villain. At least Ariana DeBose is giving it her all for an otherwise forgettable lead and at least there is some honestly good songs in this film (At All Costs is an absolute Gem don't @ me).
I agree that it's one of the weakest films in the Disney Canon but as far as worst films ever. No it's not even close.
No Wish is Not the Worst Film Disney Has Ever Made
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What it is, is a TERRIBLE choice for the hundredth anniversary movie. Worst? No, but it is a fascinating show of the quality of modern Disney. This should have been a celebration, an extravaganza years' in the making, instead its some generic crap that could have come out at any time for any occasion.
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I'm with Clear, Wish is not a terrible film, but as the 100th anniversary film... this should have been an EVENT! Make it a 2D film, hype it up as the ultimate disney film, put in all the effort and skill, a film all about the magic of disney and at your best... not a mid film with a bad art choice.
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That little short they put on Disney+ with all the characters interacting and doing a group photo in the studio was a fun 100 year tribute. Much longer and it would have overstayed it's welcome, though.
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On that I agree, like I mentioned Raya honestly would have been a much more solid 100th Anniversary even if not perfect due to it being, unintentionally or not, a deconstruction of Disney Stories, specifically the Disney Princess's Series.Nobody700 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 6:21 pm I'm with Clear, Wish is not a terrible film, but as the 100th anniversary film... this should have been an EVENT! Make it a 2D film, hype it up as the ultimate disney film, put in all the effort and skill, a film all about the magic of disney and at your best... not a mid film with a bad art choice.
What I find odd is that looking at the original concept for Wish and it likely would have been better then what we got but it still doesn't feel like the film that was meant to celebrate 100 Years of Magic. Now in Disney's defense a LOT has happened in the last three years, there was the Pandemic, they fired a CEO, hired the original CEO, there was at least 2 major strikes in Hollywood which did effect Disney and well, this film had an uphill battle that it likely would never have won.
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Wait shouldn't this thing title be "No, Wish is not the Worst film Disney Has ever made?"
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Right context matters. No one gave a shit about Home on the Range even when it came out, and it has been mostly forgotten. Wish though is supposed to be the big 100 year anniversary event and thus is going to be judged so much more harshly when it failed.
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Agreed, but that does make me wonder if Disney will ever try to rectify this down the line. I've been seriously thinking of doing a Disney Princesses Review Series in the same vain as Linkara's History of Power Rangers and while writing out these reviews I found some interesting parallels between my reviews and Linkara's HOPR, most notably between Raya and the Last Dragon and Power Rangers RPM. Both set in a apocalypse stories in a family friendly series that reexamines/deconstructs the series' tropes and while not perfect are generally considered to be solid entries in the series they are in.
And then there's Power Rangers MegaForce and Super MegaForce and Wish which were intended as major Milestone Celebrations that just aren't as good as they should have been. Now it's up in the air if Asha will actually become a Disney Princess due to the overall poor performance of the film, both critically and commercially, but my point this stands.
What's I'm curious about is what film will come out that will be the Disney Equivalent of Power Rangers Beast Morphers aka PRSMF done right. Contrary to popular belief this isn't the worst era of Disney nor the era with the most bombs. The "Dark Age" and Experimental Age both had more bombs and films that were critically panned or got mixed reception at release with only a few exceptions and were both declared as the eras that Disney would die.
Disney will bounce back sooner or later. They've been around for 100 years, they're not going anywhere.
I just wonder how they will go about it.
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Nothing is too big to fail. Big just takes longer, that's all.Winter wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:03 pmAgreed, but that does make me wonder if Disney will ever try to rectify this down the line. I've been seriously thinking of doing a Disney Princesses Review Series in the same vain as Linkara's History of Power Rangers and while writing out these reviews I found some interesting parallels between my reviews and Linkara's HOPR, most notably between Raya and the Last Dragon and Power Rangers RPM. Both set in a apocalypse stories in a family friendly series that reexamines/deconstructs the series' tropes and while not perfect are generally considered to be solid entries in the series they are in.
And then there's Power Rangers MegaForce and Super MegaForce and Wish which were intended as major Milestone Celebrations that just aren't as good as they should have been. Now it's up in the air if Asha will actually become a Disney Princess due to the overall poor performance of the film, both critically and commercially, but my point this stands.
What's I'm curious about is what film will come out that will be the Disney Equivalent of Power Rangers Beast Morphers aka PRSMF done right. Contrary to popular belief this isn't the worst era of Disney nor the era with the most bombs. The "Dark Age" and Experimental Age both had more bombs and films that were critically panned or got mixed reception at release with only a few exceptions and were both declared as the eras that Disney would die.
Disney will bounce back sooner or later. They've been around for 100 years, they're not going anywhere.
I just wonder how they will go about it.
The main difference between Disney's run of bad luck today vs its previous runs of bad luck is that Hollywood itself is now on the ropes. Look around and count how many of the truly big draws started their careers in the 21st century. The result may surprise you. The old talent just is not being replaced anymore. Who is the modern day equivalent of Tom Hanks or Tom Cruise or Will Smith? That guy who started young and pelted out banger after banger after banger?
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...Raya is a standalone film in an original setting. It's not part of a series.Winter wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:03 pm most notably between Raya and the Last Dragon and Power Rangers RPM. Both set in a apocalypse stories in a family friendly series that reexamines/deconstructs the series' tropes and while not perfect are generally considered to be solid entries in the series they are in.