OK GOP wants a database of women who've had abortions

[phantom000]

That what happened when a nation is form to cause religious percussion.

I'm guessing that you meant ''persecution''. And no? Not really? That is pretty much the opposite of what the US was ''formed'' to be regardless of what actually happened.

That gets into a lot of complex discussions on issues like 'intention versus result.' If what the Founding Fathers intended is not what actually happened, then are future generations obligated to correct it?

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

That’s what they came here to do Stop first contact.

[hammerofglass]

If we're talking the Plymoth colony then "cause religious persecution" is about right. Puritans being Puritans.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Yeah fuck the Puritan Pilgrims.

[CharlesPhipps]

That what happened when a nation is form to cause religious percussion.

I'm guessing that you meant ''persecution''. And no? Not really? That is pretty much the opposite of what the US was ''formed'' to be regardless of what actually happened.

Yes and no. You can argue that the Pilgrims came to the United States to flee religious persecution.

You can also say Britain kicked out a bunch of crazy cultists who wanted to kill Catholics and people who danced on Sundays.

[phantom000]

That what happened when a nation is form to cause religious percussion.

I'm guessing that you meant ''persecution''. And no? Not really? That is pretty much the opposite of what the US was ''formed'' to be regardless of what actually happened.

Yes and no. You can argue that the Pilgrims came to the United States to flee religious persecution.

You can also say Britain kicked out a bunch of crazy cultists who wanted to kill Catholics and people who danced on Sundays.

People also forgot that Plymouth is only half the story. Yes, lots of people came to North America to escape religious persecution but a lot of people came seeking their fortune.

[Deledrius]

I've read enough history at this point that when I see (either in the past or in the present day) someone claiming "ReLiGiOuS pErSeCuTiOn" I get very curious about what kind of awful depravity they're upset about not being allowed to perpetrate on someone else. It's not always the case, but it's often enough that it demands interrogation of the claim. I can never take this at face value.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

I've read enough history at this point that when I see (either in the past or in the present day) someone claiming "ReLiGiOuS pErSeCuTiOn" I get very curious about what kind of awful depravity they're upset about not being allowed to perpetrate on someone else. It's not always the case, but it's often enough that it demands interrogation of the claim. I can never take this at face value.

I think by this point in society, the left has national social issue on watch, though people on the right are probably better at following policy/procedure/customs more often than not.