15 year old falls to death first day on job

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/15 ... r-BB1hWw1m

This is the result of conservatives rolling back child labor laws. This is what they were working for.

[hammerofglass]

There was a law, though? It says in the article hiring him for that job violated child labor laws.

I agree with you in principle but this isn't an example of it.

Mind you, when I was fifteen I was doing plenty of stuff at the farm I worked at that easily could have got me killed if I got unlucky or put a foot wrong. Normal for that time and place, not so much anymore when there's so few small farms left in my area. Teenagers doing dangerous jobs is not a new thing is my point.

[Nealithi]

Why is an incident from 2019 just getting coverage?
Also noted OSHA sited the company had no safety gear nor training for any employees who were going over 50ft in the air. It took them endangering and allowing a minor to die for this to come to light at all.

[Deledrius]

There was a law, though? It says in the article hiring him for that job violated child labor laws.

I agree with you in principle but this isn't an example of it.

Mind you, when I was fifteen I was doing plenty of stuff at the farm I worked at that easily could have got me killed if I got unlucky or put a foot wrong. Normal for that time and place, not so much anymore when there's so few small farms left in my area. Teenagers doing dangerous jobs is not a new thing is my point.

I think it's a question of the necessity reducing, and our willingness to accept the associated risk reducing along with it. At this point it becomes about greed instead of necessity, and we're far less accepting of that (or, we say we are, anyway).

[McAvoy]

Back in my day, I was a paperboy in the morning and a bag boy at night at age 15. Paperboy even less than that. Wonder how being a paperboy got past those laws.

[Deledrius]

Tradition seems like a safe bet.

[McAvoy]

Tradition seems like a safe bet.

Perhaps. Hard work for a young teenager. Wake up at 5:00 bag each newspaper and then throw each newspaper wherever each costumer wants it. Heaven forbid it lands a short of the door into the bushes. Each day the newspaper got heavier and thicker. And then the dreaded Saturday and Sunday papers. Wearing four bags filled with newspapers wrapped around my neck (because fewer trips).

Snow, rain whatever did it. All in time for school.

[Madner Kami]

Is it wierd when I think, that there's nothing wrong with children working inherently* and that the actual problem is, when kids have to work for a living or to support their families?

*That is, of course, if the person in question recieves full worker's rights and equal pay, so it isn't just another round of "let's see how we can undermine established wage-structures and labour-rights even harder".

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

This is the result of conservatives rolling back child labor laws. This is what they were working for.

What are you even talking about? Do you know how to talk about what's relevant based on what's actually in the article that you're posting about?

Edit: and I apologize for being so abrupt and intolerant, but is there any sign anywhere that this was because of relaxed legislation?

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Tradition seems like a safe bet.

Okay, Jordan Peterson.