JK Rowling is an idiot and I still love the HP series. So, fuck it let's talk about how someone in the Wizarding world would go about changing their gender.
We know that people can completely alter their appearance and even look like someone else, even being able to change into other animals and some people can even change their appearance at will without any outside magic. But what if a someone wanted to change permanently and make so no one could change them back without a considerable amount of power and effort. I'm talking Voldemort and Dumbledore being co-owners of the Elder Wand levels here, magic that requires a great deal to be reversed to the point that it's more dangerous to the one trying to change someone back then to the actual person.
Personally I see this being something that requires the use of both spells and potions the former requiring several magic users and the latter a very hard to make potion. I also think this might end up being a very painful transformation as we've seen how transforming in this world works and for the most part it's usually pretty painful. And this is a transformation that is changing... certain parts of the body that would be rather... uncomfortable to change especially if done quickly and most transformations in this series tend to be a done in a few seconds.
So, just to fuck with Rowling (who's currently being sued for her stupidity), how do you think sexual transitions would be done in this series?
How Would Transgender Reassignment Surgery Work in Harry Potter
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I think it might just be like a polly juice potion but permenant it probably be the worst taste ever but once you get past that not much.
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Harry gets roofied and calls himself "Harriet" for a while to cover for the fact that he got tricked.
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To give this some serious thought?
I think it would not be 'permanent'. Not from an easy to cast source. Magic wears off, that is the nature. To have long term magic you need to keep maintaining it. Think of how when the Doctor was impersonating Mad-Eye Mooney he had to keep taking polyjuice. Or that Harry's cloak is a unique magic item because the invisibility does not simply wear off.
The only permanence seems to be in constructs. Not just say an animated statue, but Hogwarts itself. So either it must be inanimate or must be continuously maintained.
Now with how the wizarding world sits a few decades behind the modern world for adapting in science? Someone could perform some longer term medical procedure but adding in magic to smooth over the effects. Now what complications this might create I am not certain.
My understanding is with gender reassignment you make a gross physical change, but nothing genetic. Polyjuice requires a bit of hair of the subject. I forget if the book mentioned dandruff. But I suppose the way someone could be 'outed' would be trying to change into 'Harriet' and getting 'Harry' instead. Which could be part of an interesting story in its own right.
I think it would not be 'permanent'. Not from an easy to cast source. Magic wears off, that is the nature. To have long term magic you need to keep maintaining it. Think of how when the Doctor was impersonating Mad-Eye Mooney he had to keep taking polyjuice. Or that Harry's cloak is a unique magic item because the invisibility does not simply wear off.
The only permanence seems to be in constructs. Not just say an animated statue, but Hogwarts itself. So either it must be inanimate or must be continuously maintained.
Now with how the wizarding world sits a few decades behind the modern world for adapting in science? Someone could perform some longer term medical procedure but adding in magic to smooth over the effects. Now what complications this might create I am not certain.
My understanding is with gender reassignment you make a gross physical change, but nothing genetic. Polyjuice requires a bit of hair of the subject. I forget if the book mentioned dandruff. But I suppose the way someone could be 'outed' would be trying to change into 'Harriet' and getting 'Harry' instead. Which could be part of an interesting story in its own right.
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I assume it would probably be polyjuice based but like medication that is permanently assigned.
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Tbh, jokes aside. I think it might be something as simple as a spell. But I am not even remotely well versed in how it all works in that universe. Spells, potions etc.
To be me, it seems like a spell you would use, but it's not a automatic thing where let's say Harry Potter now identifies as Hariot Potter.
Here is the thing why. What makes Harry Potter a boy. What makes Harry Potter think differently as a boy than a girl. Is it societal or is it something ingrained as being a boy? As in making a boy a girl through a spell does that really change how he thinks once he is now as a girl? Or does being a girl now change how he thinks previously as a boy?
Maybe someone more versed in this can tell me because I just don't know.
To be me, it seems like a spell you would use, but it's not a automatic thing where let's say Harry Potter now identifies as Hariot Potter.
Here is the thing why. What makes Harry Potter a boy. What makes Harry Potter think differently as a boy than a girl. Is it societal or is it something ingrained as being a boy? As in making a boy a girl through a spell does that really change how he thinks once he is now as a girl? Or does being a girl now change how he thinks previously as a boy?
Maybe someone more versed in this can tell me because I just don't know.
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We do see magic that lasts long term. Wands, for example, retain their power until broken or until the wielder dies. Or take the Curse Voldemort put on the Defense Against the Dark Arts Position, that lasted until he died. Not to mention Voldie's own for changed due to magic, going from a regular looking person to the sort of snake person he became later in life which did NOT stop after his death.Nealithi wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 1:52 am To give this some serious thought?
I think it would not be 'permanent'. Not from an easy to cast source. Magic wears off, that is the nature. To have long term magic you need to keep maintaining it. Think of how when the Doctor was impersonating Mad-Eye Mooney he had to keep taking polyjuice. Or that Harry's cloak is a unique magic item because the invisibility does not simply wear off.
The only permanence seems to be in constructs. Not just say an animated statue, but Hogwarts itself. So either it must be inanimate or must be continuously maintained.
Now with how the wizarding world sits a few decades behind the modern world for adapting in science? Someone could perform some longer term medical procedure but adding in magic to smooth over the effects. Now what complications this might create I am not certain.
My understanding is with gender reassignment you make a gross physical change, but nothing genetic. Polyjuice requires a bit of hair of the subject. I forget if the book mentioned dandruff. But I suppose the way someone could be 'outed' would be trying to change into 'Harriet' and getting 'Harry' instead. Which could be part of an interesting story in its own right.
Side note, with Rowling being a TERF I wonder if that was meant to represent how she saw transgenders.
Or magic that goes on after someone dies which we've seen many times in this series like with the Room of Requirement which is still going strong even after whoever created said room passed on. My point is there are many instances of magic that is doesn't just fade away. But I do like the idea of using modern science to transition and using magic to make it easier. Though that does make me wonder, are their potions that work the same as hormone therapy.
Like something that will alter ones hormones like actual hormone therapy? Hm.
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Just to clarify what I was trying to say:
I remember reading an a woman's article where they interviewed men and women if they changed sex.
Men: I won't be out of the house as I am busy playing with my breasts and figuring out if the woman's orgasm is as good as they say it is.
Women: I am going to pee standing up and do the helicopter!
I remember reading an a woman's article where they interviewed men and women if they changed sex.
Men: I won't be out of the house as I am busy playing with my breasts and figuring out if the woman's orgasm is as good as they say it is.
Women: I am going to pee standing up and do the helicopter!
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