Shooting at Apalachee High School

[Nealithi]

What part of living in West Virginia means you need a machine gun to protect yourself, Nealithi? Or are we going with the "30-50 feral hogs" route?
I give a shit about kids who are murdered because we don't want to offend the "If I don't buy a 16th AR-15 then it will prove my neighbor has a bigger penis" lobby. Because the moment we suggest ANY kind of control measure, the law-abiding gun owners throw a tantrum.

It's not all give and take. Sometimes your freedom to own a machine for killing people is less important than a child's freedom to go to fucking school without having to learn lockdown nursery rhymes. This is literally the only country where school shootings are normal. If you law-abiding gun owners have to give up some uzi privileges, so be it.

And right there is the uneducated counter argument. Machineguns are illegal. An AR15 looks similar to the M16, but fires one bullet per trigger pull. Not three, and not a belt of them. Then I already stated that the gun industry on the right is acting like guns are toys and advertise them like they are action figures. "Come get you My Little Pony brand .50 Barret". That is stupid, but not illegal. It makes people buy things they do not need. But then who needs a sports car when we have speed limits either?

And the problem with compromise is also stated. There is a background check to buy a gun. I have seen three different left side news reporters try to show how ineffective that is and fail the background check. Then go and cry that it wasn't real and they were failed for being a reporter. And not, oh you know domestic violence. So then someone comes along and says "We need more gun laws" Let's remove the heat shroud on rifles so they look less scary. That does not even slow guns getting into wrong hands. All it does is make guns less safe for legal gun owners. While giving those that bought a rifle with a shroud illegal and now they can have all their guns and money confiscated.

And when was the last time you saw an Uzi? Everyone nowadays is screaming about the AR platform.

I do not like school shootings or dead children. I hate people standing on caskets to push an agenda that looks good and does nothing actually productive.

[hammerofglass]

The "assault weapon" ban did permanent damage to gun control discourse in this country. Not because it was gun control, but because it was complete nonsense written by people who knew nothing about the weapons they were regulating. Especially because so many people think "assault weapon" and "assault rifle" mean the same thing.

My state never got rid of it, in fact it's a stricter version of the same list, and I can still go down the street and by a new AR off the rack (with an hour or two pause for the background check to process) because the manufacturers stripped a couple safety features off to get around it. Or could grab something like a Mini-14 ranch rifle, same cartridge and still semi-automatic but it's a classic wooden stock so it was never affected.

[Thebestoftherest]

Okay, that is unacceptable.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Well, we could try regulating things so that domestic abusers don't get to buy guns, but then cops wouldn't have guns, so that would never pass.

[Nealithi]

Well, we could try regulating things so that domestic abusers don't get to buy guns, but then cops wouldn't have guns, so that would never pass.

That is part of the background check. It is how investigators got flagged.

The tricky part is got a gun prior to that. They get to keep them. One hand take them away, if they won't pass a background now they failed to maintain for keeping them. The tricky part is bad politicians like say DeSantis that will get a law altered to target his opponents. Granted he seems to already do that, but why hand him more rope.