Madner Kami wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:26 pm
I don't see how you can sympathize with Ra's. The man's a mass murderer hell-bent on killing everything and everyone who disagrees with him and his inconsistant moral compass. I could not fathom anyone choosing him over Nora Freeze. There's just no moral dilemma there, except for "choosing" Ra's death, but I'm fairly convinced that nobody, not even Batman, would really think about that dilemma all too much. Except maybe the Batman who laughs, who'd choose neither. What makes you think that this choice is an actual important and enticing choice?
Here's the dilemma, he is the leader of a cult of assassins whom he has brainwashed into thinking he is a god in mortal form and what do you think that cult will do when they figure out that choose to save, in their eyes, some worthless mortal instead of their master?
Save Ra's and he will never threaten Batman or Gotham again as he sends his assassins away AS he allows himself to be arrested as part of a one sided deal he made with Batman. But save Nora and the League of Shadows will tear Gotham to pieces, killing more innocent people then in the Freeze will if you fail to save his wife.
Save an innocent woman or a cult leader seems to be the real choice but the actual choice is choose to save one person or an entire city. Best you can do is try and prepare for the fall out of either choice.
Madner Kami wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:26 pm
I don't see how you can sympathize with Ra's. The man's a mass murderer hell-bent on killing everything and everyone who disagrees with him and his inconsistant moral compass. I could not fathom anyone choosing him over Nora Freeze. There's just no moral dilemma there, except for "choosing" Ra's death, but I'm fairly convinced that nobody, not even Batman, would really think about that dilemma all too much. Except maybe the Batman who laughs, who'd choose neither. What makes you think that this choice is an actual important and enticing choice?
Here's the dilemma, he is the leader of a cult of assassins whom he has brainwashed into thinking he is a god in mortal form and what do you think that cult will do when they figure out that choose to save, in their eyes, some worthless mortal instead of their master?
Save Ra's and he will never threaten Batman or Gotham again as he sends his assassins away AS he allows himself to be arrested as part of a one sided deal he made with Batman. But save Nora and the League of Shadows will tear Gotham to pieces, killing more innocent people then in the Freeze will if you fail to save his wife.
Save an innocent woman or a cult leader seems to be the real choice but the actual choice is choose to save one person or an entire city. Best you can do is try and prepare for the fall out of either choice.
Still, it's easy to sniff out the bias in Batman when one choice has to do with direct death and the other one is a string of decisions made by other people.
Winter wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:17 pm
I can be very convincing when I want to be. After the failure of Joker 2 film and the surprise success of Batman: Arkham Shadow I could easily convince the studio that right now is people want to see less of the Joker, not more and by focusing on other well known villains like Mr. Freeze and Ra's I'm not taking that big of a risk since I'm focusing on well established and popular villains.
The harder sell would be the other members of the Batfamily, Nightwing, Red Hood and Red Robin or Robin and Batgirl would be an easy sell they wouldn't even blink at that. But Orphen, Spoiler and Signal, most people have never heard of these characters so this would be the biggest risk and something I would need to sell on the first try.
I think I've got a real winner on my hands here I just have to sell it to someone.
Probably have to either sell the others as skins for the other characters. Or expand the roster. So you have the major hits but include the ones you actually want.
CharlesPhipps wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 3:08 am
The Joker is dead and I hope stays that way.
Not happening, even with the bombing of J2 he's just to popular to get rid of, at best he's out for 2 years and then he'll be back.
The Arkhamverse doesn't need him and is better off without him is all I'm saying.
Well I agree that Knight would have been better served if he was given a smaller role and that he shouldn't have been the main villain in Origins though the Royal Hotel is the best level in that game and one of the best in the series and Joker is a major factor in that mission as to why it's so good.
And Asylum and City just wouldn't work without him. Though I do agree that he is overused hence why he's the starter villain in my game. I love the Joker but seriously give other villains some time in the spotlight.
