A question of remakes

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Yeah, LEXX is something special.

Also Brigadoom is my personal gold standard for a musical episode. It's literally a stage musical in-universe, perfect idea no notes.
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Nobody700 wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 8:57 pm Eh, Winter, you're not getting into the fun of things.
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Winter wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 11:24 pm
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Starship Troopers but much closer to the book. Comes to mind.

Better remake of Robocop or hell a sequel after Robocop 2. I know there is talks with I think Amazon about this.

I would stay away from rebooting Star Wars. Right now it's a toxic franchise in every kind of way. Same goes for Star Trek. Already had the Abrams reboot anyway.

Wing Commander could work for a remake.
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Winter wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 11:24 pm
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Okay, here's one that always stood out to me, the first half hour of The Killing Joke. Assuming the studio would not give us permission to change the Killing Joker portion of the story which means Barbara is still fridged so despite wanting to change that we can't.

Honestly, the idea of giving Barbara a more active role in this story IS a good one, give her something so this can feel like she's more than just some plot device to for in the story that barely plays a role in said story.

Me personally I would adapt a different story that already exists that contrasts with The Killing Joke. One that helps to emphasis what Barbara is going to lose AND close the film out on her in a post credit scene but not that stupid one we got in the actual movie.

The story I'm thinking of is Wonder Woman, Zatanna, and Batgirl from The Brave and the Bold which was the 33rd issue from the comics, written by J.M. Straczynski and Cliff Chiang.

This issue is set well before the events of where Zatanna has a vision of Barbara getting shot and losing the use of her legs. However, there's no way this can be changed so instead of trying to change something she can't effect Zatanna instead calls in Diana who picks up Barbara and the three have a girls night out.

It's a fun story that give Barbara one good night, it has a lot of humor (like Diana crushing some jerks phone but we're meant to think she's crushing his balls for a split second) and it helps to emphasis BARBARA'S lose in what is to come. The issue ends with Barbara back in the present day saying she dreamed about that night and how she loved to dance.

One thing that's great about this story is that it's a story that's low on the action but high on the character which is great because it would fit with the Killing Joke perfectly. One thing that bugs me about the Prologue of the film is that it's an action set piece which is not what most people are coming in for. The Killing Joke is a character study that is meant to give us insight into Joker's character and why he is the way he is while also making us question his story with his famous "If I'm to have an origin story I'd rather it be multi-choice."

But the Prologue of the film is all about action, bad one liners and boobies. Again, no one is going into this story expecting top of the line, over the top action scenes. They're going in expecting a character study and while not perfect this alternate version at least is a better fit for the story.

It's not a perfect fix but I'm going in with the idea that the studio is not going to let me change that much of the story but are open to things being added on.
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clearspira wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 10:12 pm I have recently been watching a TV series named ''Lexx'' on Amazon Prime. I came back to it out of a certain fascination, ''was it as weird as I remembered back in the day?''

Yep! Oh hell yeah! This is the weirdest, strangest, most unique and most fascinating experience that you'll have out of a TV show. How did it get made? How was it ever allowed? But what could we turn it into today if we were allowed to? I almost certainly will not watch the whole thing but for now it has me gripped in that ''so bad its good'' joy.

How best to describe Lexx? Imagine if Farscape had the acting, plotlines and budget of softcore porn. The main crew consists of Stanley (a middle-aged man constantly trying to get laid), Xev (a sexy young nymphomaniac), 790 (a robot head that is murderously in love with said nympho), and Kai (a man who is quite literally a dead man walking who cannot have sex but the nympho wants anyway). And they all live aboard a living ship (see what I mean about Farscape?) that is shaped like a penis and in which everything on-board is shaped like a penis. Shower head? Penis. Food dispenser? Penis. And did I mention that this ship has a Death Star laser and eats planets?

And despite what you may be thinking, oh, this was on mainstream TV all right. You did not have to buy a copy from ''Dodgy Dave'' down an alley. This was a joint production between Canada, Germany and the UK - and it even aired on the Sci-Fi Channel at one point. It got four seasons!

You could not make this show today in its current form obviously (hell, I am not convinced that you could make Farscape in its current form today) but it really is a unique viewing experience because do you know what else this show is? DARK. Much darker than you would first think just to look at it. I won't get into it, but yeah. If you are planning to watch it I guess that I should offer trigger warnings for death, torture and implied rape.

It is one of the weirdest shows that I have ever watched and In a different world that still allowed such shows I think you could make something out of it today. That was the original brief of this thread after all lol.
Thinking about LEXX some more and I think it actually would do really well in a remake if you cranked the black humor and sex and violence up just a few ticks higher. Like it's at an 8 now, let's get that to 11. Should be a hit with those Rick and Morty and Helluva Boss demographics, you wouldn't have to change a thing about the plots or characters.
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One thing that bugs me is, even if his penis is dead, that shouldn't stop him from satisfying a horny woman. He's still got a working tongue and fingers, right? Do they ever address this in the show?
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 7:14 pm One thing that bugs me is, even if his penis is dead, that shouldn't stop him from satisfying a horny woman. He's still got a working tongue and fingers, right? Do they ever address this in the show?
Kai has no passions and very limited emotions, he's flatly not interested. Xev isn't interested in Stanley either, and his interest in her is basically on the level of she's hot and she's there. Lot of horny in the crew, but nothing mutual.
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 7:14 pm One thing that bugs me is, even if his penis is dead, that shouldn't stop him from satisfying a horny woman. He's still got a working tongue and fingers, right? Do they ever address this in the show?
That reminds me of Wild Wild West which would be a good idea for a remake.
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