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McAvoy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 5:37 am
My hope is our current generation Gen Zoomers and perhaps Alpha, can learn from this.
Gen X, Millenials we are screwed. Everyone at this point is hardwired to their political beliefs. It would take a serious self realization for one to change it.
The oldest Millenials for example are in their 40's, myself among them. Maybe the youngest and the Zoomers can do something.
Let's hope, but depending on the stats that you read, that is the age group most likely to be woman hating INCELs. Not to mention, go and watch Tik Tok. There are a lot of judgemental, self-obsessed and materialistic people in this age group who would do basically anything for 100 subs.
I think that it's a bit of a myth that young people are more liberal than older people tbh. True in a technical sense perhaps, but in practice? Meh.
Let us not forget that Boomers were the group who campaigned against Vietnam, who were the hippies at Woodstock, who were putting flowers in gun barrels. This isn't the first time we have had a young counter-culture supposedly looking toward the future. Look what happened there.
McAvoy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 5:37 am
My hope is our current generation Gen Zoomers and perhaps Alpha, can learn from this.
Gen X, Millenials we are screwed. Everyone at this point is hardwired to their political beliefs. It would take a serious self realization for one to change it.
The oldest Millenials for example are in their 40's, myself among them. Maybe the youngest and the Zoomers can do something.
Let's hope, but depending on the stats that you read, that is the age group most likely to be woman hating INCELs. Not to mention, go and watch Tik Tok. There are a lot of judgemental, self-obsessed and materialistic people in this age group who would do basically anything for 100 subs.
I think that it's a bit of a myth that young people are more liberal than older people tbh. True in a technical sense perhaps, but in practice? Meh.
Let us not forget that Boomers were the group who campaigned against Vietnam, who were the hippies at Woodstock, who were putting flowers in gun barrels. This isn't the first time we have had a young counter-culture supposedly looking toward the future. Look what happened there.
All of the old hippies I know are still counter-culture progressives in their 60s and 70s. Generations aren't monoliths, that was also the cohort that elected Reagan and Thatcher.
One can only match, move by move, the machinations of fate... and thus defy the tyrannous stars.
Let's keep in mind, that the older we get there is a tendency to hold on your old beliefs. Boomers may have been the hippie culture but let's remember that there were Boomers countering that culture themselves too.
And the older we get the more we tend to hold on to our past too. I am talking generally here.
Its the case where each generation becoming more acceptable to new things than the previous generation. Whether it's technology or societal acceptance of something.
Eh, generational politics are a poor substitute for class politics. The belief that people get more conservative as they age, for example, is a myth/misunderstood statistical quirk. It's that people with left-leaning beliefs are more likely to die earlier than people with right-leaning beliefs, because the left-leaning ones are usually poor and/or otherwise marginalized.
"Believe me, there’s nothing so terrible that someone won’t support it."
— Un Lun Dun, China Mieville
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:00 am
Eh, generational politics are a poor substitute for class politics. The belief that people get more conservative as they age, for example, is a myth/misunderstood statistical quirk. It's that people with left-leaning beliefs are more likely to die earlier than people with right-leaning beliefs, because the left-leaning ones are usually poor and/or otherwise marginalized.
That and the idea that folks will change their tune when it's THEIR assets (house, car, savings, etc.) getting taxed for the common good.
Problem: barely anyone HAS any assets to tax, anymore. The ladder got pulled up during the Regan/Thatcher years. We have nothing left to CONSERVE.
So, I guess that hits on the same point: we have nothing left to lose but our lives.
It feels like millennials in general have been drifting farther left as time goes on, although that might just be who I surround myself with changing over time. It mostly feels like I stayed still and the overton window shifted to the right around me but there was definitely some point where "the system is broken and must be repaired" turned into "the system is working as intended and must be replaced".
One can only match, move by move, the machinations of fate... and thus defy the tyrannous stars.
It would make for an interesting discussion to predict what will happen to Musk in four years time - maybe even two depending on the mid-terms and whether Trump gets sick of him or not. And assuming the nuclear wasteland of King Trump doesn't come to pass - just a normal four years time with the Office changing hands.
Because this man has well and truly burned his bridges with any Democrat voter. He is making powerful enemies in the Federal government. His name is mud in Germany due to support of far right parties and Salutegate. Tesla sales are down 60% in Europe since Trump's election so if he has any shareholders to answer to they won't be happy. The users of X are down 30%.
He is a businessman who has pissed off his customers.
The fall of the Dynasty of Musk seems like a realistic possibility. Hopefully with a lot of retaliatory lawsuits along the way.
clearspira wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:10 am
It would make for an interesting discussion to predict what will happen to Musk in four years time - maybe even two depending on the mid-terms and whether Trump gets sick of him or not. And assuming the nuclear wasteland of King Trump doesn't come to pass - just a normal four years time with the Office changing hands.
Because this man has well and truly burned his bridges with any Democrat voter. He is making powerful enemies in the Federal government. His name is mud in Germany due to support of far right parties and Salutegate. Tesla sales are down 60% in Europe since Trump's election so if he has any shareholders to answer to they won't be happy. The users of X are down 30%.
He is a businessman who has pissed off his customers.
The fall of the Dynasty of Musk seems like a realistic possibility. Hopefully with a lot of retaliatory lawsuits along the way.
Trump doesn't intend to leave office before he's dead.
Yeah. Garantee you talk about giving him a second 'consecutive' term after this will be brought up. Assuming no age related debilitating illness happens by then.
McAvoy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 1:43 am
Yeah. Garantee you talk about giving him a second 'consecutive' term after this will be brought up. Assuming no age related debilitating illness happens by then.
The thing is that I'm pretty sure Trump is in late stage senility now so that he's a prop for the Heritage Foundation and Silicon Valley to wheel out these days.
