You've written a lot of justifications for why you think Rey should be able to master anything pretty much immediately, so my question to you is: at which point would it be too much and unjustified?Ordo wrote: Yes I am, and here's why's why.
Playing with TIE fighter rules, Kylo could have parked in the hangar bay and opened fire with laser cannons for about 2 minutes until the ship's hull hit 0%. Engine wash killed the old sitting at the engines strategy.SabreMau wrote: Which would also loop around to mechanics from the TIE Fighter games. In that, lasers did have a maximum range, but that was because you were running it on like 486s that didn't have the space to track everyone's shots infinitely out into deep space for the whole battle, even if they wanted to. So shots just disappeared after 1.6 kilometers or so. In the movie, it just seems like that cannon's power suffers too quick a dropoff just by getting a little out of envelope range, especially since, hours later when the distance is much further out, the exact same cannon still has enough juice to one-shot vaporize unshielded transports.
It's not so much a plot hole, as they're very expository about the overview of the situation, it just feels an odd setup for the writers to write them into, and feeds some "well why wouldn't they just do this, then?" ideas on the side.
I think cannon range is less of an issue than the other contrivances around the whole chase scene and you're absolutely right in saying there's lots of ways the movie could have been almost immediately over.
Kylo and friends taking out all the enemy fighters and destroying the lead ship's bridge leaving them without air support and effectively crippled, then withdrawing the handful of fighters they sent.
Instead of immediately deploying the thousands of other fighters we saw in the racks and presumably bombers they have as well thanks to that arms dealer' holograms, they sit back and plink away at range for 18 hours. This might be fine if they were conserving resources and were in no particular rush, except they're apparently involved in a massive takeover of the rest of the galaxy.
Even if the Star Destroyers can't make micro jumps, we see in the same movie that ships jump away and then jumps back within short range.
Even looking up the Wookiepedia articles on the ship specs, the Raddus calamari cruiser is apparently running a skeleton crew and only has 36 heavy weapons batteries compared to a single Resurgent class which has a ridiculous 1500+ weapons batteries and should outgun the entire Resistance fleet about 40/1. Two half-assed lightspeed jumps from a single ship would have saved a whole lot of time.
Before that, the First Order could have wiped out the resistance by targeting the Fleet rather than the empty base with their Dreadnought.
Thinking about it I suppose the Dreadnought's cannons would have had the range to kill the fleet, so Poe's disobeying orders retroactively saved everyone. Of course he would have failed had the First Order launched fighters.
Overall most of what happens is what you could call an idiot plot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot_plot
If the First Order had been even marginally competent with their overwhelming military advantage the movie would have been over. If Finn and Rose had asked for landing clearance they would have succeeded in their mission. If Holdo hadn't given off the impression that she was trying to get everyone killed there wouldn't have been a mutiny, and if the guy on the First Order's scanners had apparently turned up the sensor power a little, which they can apparently just do if they feel like it, her plan would have never worked in the first place.
Even if you ignore the legacy issues I have no idea why there were so many good reviews for TLJ when there's such shoddy writing, terrible slapstick and tone killing humor in this movie.
