Donald Trump Reloaded!

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BTW, if you want to know what a collaborator or a rubber stamper looks like in reality, it is Marco Rubio.

He went from being one of Trump's biggest critics to a lickspittle.
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We've got those pointless fucking 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico now, plus 20% on China. Weird how little fanfare it's getting compared to when he threatened it but didn't actually do it a month ago.
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hammerofglass wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:53 pm We've got those pointless fucking 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico now, plus 20% on China. Weird how little fanfare it's getting compared to when he threatened it but didn't actually do it a month ago.
25% reciprocal tariffs from Canada. They are also floating a 25% tariff on electricity or even cutting supplies entirely. Similar story in China. A big one is a tariff on soybeans which are apparantly a major US export.

This is a good thing btw. The two things that are a universal "i give a shit about this" are money and jobs. The two things that helped get the man elected in places like the Rust Belt as sad as that is.

Trump will back down first. Or invade. One of the two.
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I don't actually have a problem with targetted tarifs, in principle anyway. Sometimes looking after your own industries is more valuable than the economic gain (and I find it hypocritical to import goods from countries with much worse labour laws). But what Trump's doing is just stupid. He wants the rest of the world to buy American stuff but he's killing the market for it by encouraging people to boycott it. For someone who claims to be a businessman you think he'd know at least a tiny thing about sales.
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Riedquat wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 9:52 pm I don't actually have a problem with targetted tarifs, in principle anyway. Sometimes looking after your own industries is more valuable than the economic gain (and I find it hypocritical to import goods from countries with much worse labour laws). But what Trump's doing is just stupid. He wants the rest of the world to buy American stuff but he's killing the market for it by encouraging people to boycott it. For someone who claims to be a businessman you think he'd know at least a tiny thing about sales.
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clearspira wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 10:22 pm
Riedquat wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 9:52 pm I don't actually have a problem with targetted tarifs, in principle anyway. Sometimes looking after your own industries is more valuable than the economic gain (and I find it hypocritical to import goods from countries with much worse labour laws). But what Trump's doing is just stupid. He wants the rest of the world to buy American stuff but he's killing the market for it by encouraging people to boycott it. For someone who claims to be a businessman you think he'd know at least a tiny thing about sales.
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clearspira wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 10:22 pm
Riedquat wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 9:52 pm I don't actually have a problem with targetted tarifs, in principle anyway. Sometimes looking after your own industries is more valuable than the economic gain (and I find it hypocritical to import goods from countries with much worse labour laws). But what Trump's doing is just stupid. He wants the rest of the world to buy American stuff but he's killing the market for it by encouraging people to boycott it. For someone who claims to be a businessman you think he'd know at least a tiny thing about sales.
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This a million times. Nevermind any of the dumb decisions he made as a businessman.
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clearspira wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 9:12 pm
hammerofglass wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:53 pm We've got those pointless fucking 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico now, plus 20% on China. Weird how little fanfare it's getting compared to when he threatened it but didn't actually do it a month ago.
25% reciprocal tariffs from Canada. They are also floating a 25% tariff on electricity or even cutting supplies entirely. Similar story in China. A big one is a tariff on soybeans which are apparantly a major US export.

This is a good thing btw. The two things that are a universal "i give a shit about this" are money and jobs. The two things that helped get the man elected in places like the Rust Belt as sad as that is.

Trump will back down first. Or invade. One of the two.
My running theory is Trump will back off. Call victory and his followers will as well on some made up concession. This will end some time this year.

Definitely won't last for the 2026 mid elections. Having things cost so much more will be a big incentive for Trump is possibly lose both houses and make him into a lameduck president.
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Which elections? If anything, he'll get 105% of the votes.
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He literally campaigned on "you'll never have to vote again".
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