Durandal_1707 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 13, 2025 4:50 pm
There are a lot of possibilities that would work well, but in the present moment, Jeri Ryan is here, she's still as fantastic as she ever was, she's willing to do a show, and her last outing was enthusiastically received. It would be criminal for them not to make a show about Captain Seven on the Enterprise-G.
If they do Star Trek Legacy they need to cut down on the fan service. Cut down the references as much as possible. Avoid bringing in the legacy characters as much as possible. I mean, maybe could have Tim Russ come back as Tuvok as Seven's direct superior. I can buy into that. Maybe have Admiral Janeway show up for the first episode.
Change the design of the Enterprise-G to a different ship. A more impressive one. How Picard ended, with the Enterprise-D back in the Museum, Enterprise-E having a mysterious end and the Enterprise-F having like a ten second cameo. It just seems to be like such a big downgrade for the Enterprise-G to be a renamed ship of a inferior looking design.
Hell that ship was a big downgrade of the original Titan, too. Especially coming right after how Lower Decks made it so awesome. Somebody in production had it out for the poor thing.
Yeah. There was no reason to call that ship the Titan. Plenty of names to call it.
Don't get me wrong I do like it. Maybe because it resembles the Movie Connie which is the point.
1) The G is fine. It looks like the Constitution Class. It has character, and it's friendly looking. I personally like it better than the sleek, stretched out, overly aggressive look of the E and F.
2) What the ship looks like is a matter of taste, and you're never going to get everybody to agree on what is the best design.
3) It really doesn't matter. Give me a new Trek show with good scripts and Jeri Ryan as the lead, and I don't care if the ship looks like a freakin' runabout.
Durandal_1707 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 15, 2025 5:23 pm
1) The G is fine. It looks like the Constitution Class. It has character, and it's friendly looking. I personally like it better than the sleek, stretched out, overly aggressive look of the E and F.
2) What the ship looks like is a matter of taste, and you're never going to get everybody to agree on what is the best design.
3) It really doesn't matter. Give me a new Trek show with good scripts and Jeri Ryan as the lead, and I don't care if the ship looks like a freakin' runabout.
That's you. For others the Titan looks like a step backwards when it comes to the progressive trend Enterprise ship looks like. Just like it looks like a step backwards from when the first Titan and then the Titan-A looks like this.
The flat out reason is Titan is recognizable to Trek fans. So it's Fan Service. The ship could easily be called the USS Europa and nothing would have changed. There was no reason to rename the ship to Enterprise-G except fan service. Could have still kept the name USS Europa.
Or in hindsight and a bit on the nose for season 3. USS Legacy.
It irks fans just like how the NX-01 was blatant ripoff off of the Akira class.
Like I said, it's subjective. To me, however, the G looks like it's here to save the day.
This thing looks like it's here to kick you in the teeth. (edit: does this forum not allow inline images anymore?)
Never cared for that "Voyager, but meaner looking" aesthetic of the TNG movie era.
By the way, it's interesting that you bring up the NX-01 because from certain angles, the F looks a lot more like a giant NX-01 than most Starfleet ships do.
Durandal_1707 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 18, 2025 4:01 pm
Like I said, it's subjective. To me, however, the G looks like it's here to save the day.
This thing looks like it's here to kick you in the teeth. (edit: does this forum not allow inline images anymore?)
Never cared for that "Voyager, but meaner looking" aesthetic of the TNG movie era.
By the way, it's interesting that you bring up the NX-01 because from certain angles, the F looks a lot more like a giant NX-01 than most Starfleet ships do.
There is a mix of the post-TNG aesthetic, Star Trek Online and original design with the ships having more angular perhaps boxy look to it. Could call this the Disco era style of design no matter what century.
Enterprise-F is interesting in that it was a design made by during a design competition long ago on what the next Enterprise would look like. This was after Enterprise ended and before Abrams Trek. Also same time was the USS Titan as a tie in for the books that were being produced.
So yes makes sense, those two designs resemble that line of design thinking because Trek fans only had that.
I think that a lot of the newer ships look "too busy".
They have bits jutting out or strange gaps or strange patterns. Nothing will ever beat the Nerada from Trek 09 for "too busy" but they are on the scale.
I think back when they used studio models the ships looked more real.
clearspira wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 8:26 am
I think that a lot of the newer ships look "too busy".
They have bits jutting out or strange gaps or strange patterns. Nothing will ever beat the Nerada from Trek 09 for "too busy" but they are on the scale.
I think back when they used studio models the ships looked more real.
Alex Jaeger started that. Designed ships for the cool factor. It was Sternbach who designed the models and made them less 'busy'. He also made them logical as well.
I mean he was the one who made in-universe logical decisions on the ship's. Phaser arrays, actual locations for torpedo launchers, even locations for those yellow transporter emitters. The shield emitter lines were straight.
Whereas Jaeger just designed the ships without a thiught. Granted some were not meant to be seen up close. Like the Norway or Steamrunner classes.
But other people followed whether intentionally or not followed Jaeger with this sort of design choice.
I personally like Sternbach's way of designing the ships.
It seems to be the general opinion from what i've seen that the Enterprise-E isn't a great design. In addition to being busy, there is just a lot of little things like an undersized deflector dish, its large impulse engines, oversized nacelles and its strangely elongated length. As Chuck notes though it is a very nice in-universe reflection of the difference between season 1 of TNG and the post-Dominion, post-Borg Federation.
