GandALF wrote:Fixer wrote: the Eternal Empire had some great promise for a new and interesting opposition with its own style and unique threat
Well the decadent droid dependant society stuff is unique, but in all other respects its similar to both the OT Empire by having to fight the Odessen Rebel Alliance and the vanilla SWTOR Sith Empire by striking out from the unknown regions and forcing the Republic into a humiliating peace treaty.
Now that I think about it the First Order is really similar to the SWTOR Sith Empire with Snoke and Palpatine playing similar roles to Vitiate and Naga Sadow
I liked the concept of a society that believed itself to be somewhat of a Federation of Planets ruled by a beloved and benevolent dictator coming up against the Republic and the Jedi. The Jedi having to face a disciplined and technologically advanced enemy that wholeheartedly believes themselves to be moral and the right (even if they are ruled unknowingly by a galaxy devouring living doomsday weapon) presents an entirely different kind of challenge to the evil of the Sith.
Likewise, the SWTOR era Sith had a lot in common with Palpatine's era, right down to uniforms, titles and ship designs but the conflicts were different. You had the sudden resurgence up to the sacking of Coruscant, the Cold War, the Great Galactic war including the Sith's failures leading to them having to be the ones making desperate gambits after their infighting squandered their advantage.
KOTOR and KOTOR2 as well, The Mandalorian Wars, the Jedi Civil War, the Triumvirate. All these battles and conflicts which are so different in scope from "Tiny Rebellion Vs. Massive Empire."
ORCACommander wrote:Fixer, I don't get the hate for the porgs, they were largely unobtrusive and it was easier to make porgs than it was to digitally remove the real life puffins from the film.
the crystal foxes i will admit are bit of a plot convenience.
I don't recall much slap stick
I stand by that a lot of the problems of this movie are inherited from abrahms and the fact it is less than 24 hours after the events of the force awakens.
Same general feelings as the Ewoks but on a lesser scale. Or product placement in other films. That knowledge something exists only to be cute and marketable or to sell products.
There's a ton of physical comedy in TLJ. BB-8 trying to plug a leak of electricity like a water leak in a cartoon. Then mashing it with his head. Finn getting up and walking about leaking bacta everywhere. BB-8 getting filled with hundreds of coins and firing them like a machine gun. That opera singing alien when the space horses escape. To name a few examples.
The problem with slapstick comedy in an escapist setting is that the entire point of it is to be unrealistic. Nothing destroys willing suspension of disbelief like a failed joke reminding you what you are watching now isn't real.
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