Another School Shooting, this time in Florida

[Admiral X]

Yes, it's a very irrational view of a civil rights lobbying group, which actually has lost membership over the years because it's compromised too much on gun control over the years.

And there's no such thing as too many guns.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Phantom0000, a fever is just a symptom, but left untreated, the fever alone can kill.

[Karha of Honor]

Guns are not he problem though. People are the problem.
We have Several Major factors contributing to violent crime:
Urban Population density keeps on increasing. This leads to classic resource conflict pressures
Part of the above but on a broader level cost of living is rapidly rising and wages have been declining in value for more than a generation at this point.
Economically depressed areas have no hope for getting out out of their situation so the people do nothing to rise above the abhorrent behavior of their peers and expend no effort at improving the situation except at the expense of their peers
Somewhere along the line "Might = Right" took hold and people are more inclined to use force to get what they want
Anger seems to have become a prime motivator supplanting logic, reasoning and discourse
A fundamental inability to recognize that maybe yourself may be the source of your own problems
I'll concede that a large body of firearm owners lack respect for their possessions

Major political decisions are very distant from people, they are right to be angry about that one.

[Antiboyscout]

Phantom0000, a fever is just a symptom, but left untreated, the fever alone can kill.

A fever is also the bodies natural response to sickness. Increased body temperature inhibits the growth of disease. Bad metaphor

[excalibur]

Phantom0000, a fever is just a symptom, but left untreated, the fever alone can kill.

You're using an analogy like I would use. Except I don't think we mean the same thing when either one of us say it. Or realistically, if you want to treat the "gun problem" like a fever, it can mean no matter how much preventive measures you take, you will always get sick

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Phantom0000, a fever is just a symptom, but left untreated, the fever alone can kill.

You're using an analogy like I would use. Except I don't think we mean the same thing when either one of us say it. Or realistically, if you want to treat the "gun problem" like a fever, it can mean no matter how much preventive measures you take, you will always get sick

You might get sick, but you can treat the cause AND the symptoms, and it doesn't matter how good the antibiotic is if the patient's already dead from a swollen brain.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

excalibur and unknown sample, We are nothing but what our media portray us as. AnExcalibar d what our media portrays us as Mentally unstable mornons who's national pass time is unrestrained slaughter against targets that do not fight back. The British Isle gets portrayed as stiff, homogeneous and increasing under panoptic surveillance.

No Excalibur is playing deflection, he is reaching for anything to deflect away from America and its gun problem, from London being the acid attack capital of the world, to you can't buy a butter knife unless your're over 18, to you can't say what you think anymore, all to deflect from the very basic problem, America has too many guns.

You're missing the point. Excalibur IS being consistent, taking the same "people will get around the law" attitude to guns, drugs, etc.

[phantom000]

The point i was trying to make with the 'symptom' analogy is that gun control and school safety are two different things and you can effect one and have little or no impact on the other. You could make schools safer without tighter gun laws and you could take all the guns and still not make schools safe.

[excalibur]

It's also narrative control. As I've pointed out before, people for gun control zero in on certain situations and ignore other situations that are more common. Because it doesn't fit with their agenda.

Case in point. Being how charged we discuss things here, no one's made a thread about the Youtube shooter that happened a couple days ago. This didn't happen at some no name building in California. It happened at the headquarters of YouTube and no one wants to talk about it. I wonder why...

[Karha of Honor]

It's also narrative control. As I've pointed out before, people for gun control zero in on certain situations and ignore other situations that are more common. Because it doesn't fit with their agenda.

Case in point. Being how charged we discuss things here, no one's made a thread about the Youtube shooter that happened a couple days ago. This didn't happen at some no name building in California. It happened at the headquarters of YouTube and no one wants to talk about it. I wonder why...