Voyager- Muse review

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CrypticMirror wrote:This is one of these episodes which I legit thought Chuck had already covered. I don't know why, maybe it is because it seems like an S1 Voyager episode. I thought I remembered it as a regular shuttle that Torres crashed rather than the DF and I managed to forget the Seven of Nine substory too. Actually, maybe the problem is with my memory.
Or maybe Voyager repeats it's own tropes in pretty much every episode and as such, things tend to get blurry. Just think about the Memorial-episode and the episode where Chakotay gets brainwashed to fight in a guerilla war. Almost nobody can actually remember that these are two distinct episodes. Or how Chuck awards a Lazarus of the Week or a Burn Baby Burn almost every episode or, as he points out even in this review, that there are basically only three types of stories involving Belanna: Either she's pissed off, fixes something or she breaks someone (or a combination of the above).
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Madner Kami wrote:
CrypticMirror wrote:This is one of these episodes which I legit thought Chuck had already covered. I don't know why, maybe it is because it seems like an S1 Voyager episode. I thought I remembered it as a regular shuttle that Torres crashed rather than the DF and I managed to forget the Seven of Nine substory too. Actually, maybe the problem is with my memory.
Or maybe Voyager repeats it's own tropes in pretty much every episode and as such, things tend to get blurry. Just think about the Memorial-episode and the episode where Chakotay gets brainwashed to fight in a guerilla war. Almost nobody can actually remember that these are two distinct episodes. Or how Chuck awards a Lazarus of the Week or a Burn Baby Burn almost every episode or, as he points out even in this review, that there are basically only three types of stories involving Belanna: Either she's pissed off, fixes something or she breaks someone (or a combination of the above).
the third thing she does is screw someone not break someone
but its because the writers where bad and where pulling from the old episodes of tng tos and ds9 to cover for their lack of imagination. Plus the recurring tropes is simply because thats what they did on tng -its so simple to write im surprised they don't have the script mad lib for shuttle crash episodes. Think about it.

___________ (and________) are in a shuttle they encounter___________ that causes _________damage to the shuttle. They crash land on a _______ planet and have to deal with _________ and ________ in order to (either wait to or send a signal to be rescued) Mean while the ship is dealing with (Random sub plot roll 2 d10s )
Mean while ______ (and ____________) meet and alien named ___________ that helps them to safety.
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chaos42 wrote:
Madner Kami wrote:
CrypticMirror wrote:This is one of these episodes which I legit thought Chuck had already covered. I don't know why, maybe it is because it seems like an S1 Voyager episode. I thought I remembered it as a regular shuttle that Torres crashed rather than the DF and I managed to forget the Seven of Nine substory too. Actually, maybe the problem is with my memory.
Or maybe Voyager repeats it's own tropes in pretty much every episode and as such, things tend to get blurry. Just think about the Memorial-episode and the episode where Chakotay gets brainwashed to fight in a guerilla war. Almost nobody can actually remember that these are two distinct episodes. Or how Chuck awards a Lazarus of the Week or a Burn Baby Burn almost every episode or, as he points out even in this review, that there are basically only three types of stories involving Belanna: Either she's pissed off, fixes something or she breaks someone (or a combination of the above).
the third thing she does is screw someone not break someone
but its because the writers where bad and where pulling from the old episodes of tng tos and ds9 to cover for their lack of imagination. Plus the recurring tropes is simply because thats what they did on tng -its so simple to write im surprised they don't have the script mad lib for shuttle crash episodes. Think about it.

___________ (and________) are in a shuttle they encounter___________ that causes _________damage to the shuttle. They crash land on a _______ planet and have to deal with _________ and ________ in order to (either wait to or send a signal to be rescued) Mean while the ship is dealing with (Random sub plot roll 2 d10s )
Mean while ______ (and ____________) meet and alien named ___________ that helps them to safety.
I remember that episode, the guest star was an eighties TV star and he turned out to be the baddie all along while the guy who looked surly but has only three IMDB entries was the fake out and actually not the baddie. Also he got shot and vaporised, even though the phaser only knocked the regular cast member back on his arse for a couple of minutes.

Is that the one?
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im not sure was it the one where he had a face with some forehead bumps or was it the one with the next marks but other wise looked like a human with a really stupid hair style that makes him look like a reject from a hippy convent
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chaos42 wrote:im not sure was it the one where he had a face with some forehead bumps or was it the one with the next marks but other wise looked like a human with a really stupid hair style that makes him look like a reject from a hippy convent
It was the one where the male guest star's costume was like some sort of garish blanket draped over them, but the female guest's costume was a skin tight spandex catsuit. I think we might be on the same page. It had a blue lighting special effect, I remember that.
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I feel this episodes plot could have been made better use by taking Kellis' war averting desires at face value and make it the center of the series with some continuity in the mix.

Torres realizes he needs to help him to get off his world, pauses and realizes that Battle of Narendra III is a perfect setting to get Kelli's message across and so works with him to adapt it with Voyager in place of Enterprise C. At the same time, as she goes through developing it she mulls over the Federation and rest of the crew of Voyager and what they really mean to her often in ways she didn't realize up until then while the en product is a mythologized version mish-mash of Voyager, the Battle and the Faux-Greek aliens cosmology.

Like other episodes Voyager did, like Nemesis, they undermined building an episode away from Voyager and focusing on one crew members by constantly cutting back to Voyager working to recuse them.
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well the entire cast has to get paid.

Also when i rolled 2 d 10s last time i got random tech malfunctions caused by roll a 3d4s magic space bugs which episode was that
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chaos42 wrote: Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:34 am well the entire cast has to get paid.

Also when i rolled 2 d 10s last time i got random tech malfunctions caused by roll a 3d4s magic space bugs which episode was that
Sounds like Discovery. :/

I think the DM should've fudged the roll.
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he forgot the dm screen so everyone saw it -like all the other crap on voyager its down to people being morons
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