SPOILERS - Avengers

[SabreMau]

Honestly, if he does end up with all of the stones couldn't he just make the universe much bigger and thus create enough "space" for everyone without being a mass murder?

'Space' isn't the issues, resources are, and it's shown that even with the stones, Thanos is not all powerful. Thor nearly takes him down...had the Thunder god aimed a little higher....

But he is all powerful, or at least is supposed to be. Controlling all six Infinity Gems makes you effectively omnipotent, and the Reality Gem alone should be able to create planets from nothingness. And Thanos was toying with everyone the whole time for his own amusement, letting them think they had a chance even though it was already basically game over after he had the third one. If Thor had been aiming for a lethal strike, Thanos could have done any number of things to alter his aim.

[Ordo]

So, how does that translate to "killing half of the universe to balance it out"? There's plenty of resources within the universe (on other planets and also on things like asteroids, Celestials heads,
etc...). well, the worlds don't affect the entire universe, just those worlds. Wanting to commit genocide on a universal level doesn't solve anything really except for just committing genocide, IMO.

Clearly Thanos has a different opinion. From what I can see, he appears to believe that current population trends are overtaxing available resources. He saw his homeworld tear itself apart over what few resources remained to them so clearly that has impacted his thinking on the subject.

Hell, all Thanos could do is go to the worlds with the most extream resources problems and just kill off their population and/or just used the stones to "scan" the universe. No need to just blindly kill off half of the universe for the sake of balancing it.

In Thanos mind his way is more equitable. He's not picking and choosing which worlds die...he's just removing half of ALL life throughout the universe. No favorites, everyone has the same chance no matter social status, location or origin.

Thanos has the ability to just will half of the entire universe's population out of existence with a mere snap/thought.....

Destroying is easier than creating, and faster. He is called 'The Mad Titan" after all.

But he is all powerful, or at least is supposed to be.

He is not all powerful in the MCU. I said that even with all the stones Thor nearly killed him (And Thor was going for a Lethal strike)....and Thanos has to Clench his fist to activate the stones powers...suggesting limitation on what he can do.

[cilantro]

Honestly, if he does end up with all of the stones couldn't he just make the universe much bigger and thus create enough "space" for everyone without being a mass murder?

'Space' isn't the issues, resources are, and it's shown that even with the stones, Thanos is not all powerful. Thor nearly takes him down...had the Thunder god aimed a little higher....

But he is all powerful, or at least is supposed to be. Controlling all six Infinity Gems makes you effectively omnipotent, and the Reality Gem alone should be able to create planets from nothingness. And Thanos was toying with everyone the whole time for his own amusement, letting them think they had a chance even though it was already basically game over after he had the third one. If Thor had been aiming for a lethal strike, Thanos could have done any number of things to alter his aim.

This is basically why I believe that Thanos' new motivation isn't going to really age well. Unless in Avengers 4 they bring out Mistress Death and have it be connected to her, I honestly just don't see how the MCU version is going to be any better. Thanos can literally create things out of thin air and if it was all about resources then all he can do is just to create more and/or create more planets, expand the universe, etc... Killing off half of the population just doesn't make any sense at all and I feel like this movie's villain will just be lame like the many others found in the MCU (and Thanos has to have Mistress Death in order to just work, as a character. In the past, Marvel has tried to give Thanos other motivations/love interest and it usually just doesn't work out for him- also his name literally comes from the Greek word for "death", nor the fans liking it. Sure the MCU has their "fanboys" much like the other franchises have their "fanboys" that will literally "love" anything that is produced in that franchise but overall I feel like Thanos is just going to be wasted over a stupid (made out of thin air, btw) motivation that doesn't do the character any justice, IMO).

Also, you can literally pick apart his motivation because it's so bonkers and makes very little sense once you start to think about it. IMO, that is why the love angle works the best because it's a personal motivation and not some grand/logical motivation like the one they are tiring to shoehorn into Thanos.

[CharlesPhipps]

It's basically making Thanos Ra's Al Ghul.

But if we assume most of the universe is like Earth....i.e overpopulated and straining and resources, it doesn't stretch credulity. Loving Death is a stupid motivation because she's not a person but a concept. Also, that's not a core of Thanos' character since he hasn't loved her since the Infinity Gauntlet.

As for why kill half the universe's population?

Well, wouldn't that just encourage people to consume more resources? Mass death nicely gets the universe back on track to stabilizing itself!

[cilantro]

It's basically making Thanos Ra's Al Ghul.

And Jim Starling basically ripped off the New Gods from DC to make Thanos. His love/obsession with Mistress Death is what makes him into a memorable villain and not another DC knock-off (and both DC and Marvel have stolen each other stuff before. For example, Wade Wilson is literally a knocked off of Sade Wilson from DC (and he was actually seen in the end credits in Justice Leauge) but Wade Wilson was made into a much better character, IMO, because he was just a parody of comic books in general), etc....

But if we assume most of the universe is like Earth....i.e overpopulated and straining and resources, it doesn't stretch credulity. Loving Death is a stupid motivation because she's not a person but a concept. Also, that's not a core of Thanos' character since he hasn't loved her since the Infinity Gauntlet.

Really, the overpopulation theory is just a Malthusian myth and it's not about population but resource allocations.


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Also, what is wrong with wooing Mistress Death? She is a person/character but also a supernatural person/character.

As for why kill half the universe's population?

Well, wouldn't that just encourage people to consume more resources? Mass death nicely gets the universe back on track to stabilizing itself!

Again, Malthusian myth- also Overpopulation is a myth. Once a population gets access to better healthcare and more food (a.k.a better standards of living), their population tends to level out and get a bit older as well.


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[cilantro]

Look people are starting to criticize it:


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[CharlesPhipps]

Well, here's the thing....

You don't have to believe it.

You just have to believe Thanos does.

[cilantro]

Well, here's the thing....

You don't have to believe it.

You just have to believe Thanos does.

If you are saying that the MCU motivation is better than the comic book motivation, of course, people will criticize it. And it will hurt (in the long) the MCU and Marvel, IMO. Sort of how the Last Jedi has hurt Star Wars, Disney, and possibly the upcoming Han Solo movie.

[CharlesPhipps]

Well, here's the thing....

You don't have to believe it.

You just have to believe Thanos does.

If you are saying that the MCU motivation is better than the comic book motivation, of course, people will criticize it. And it will hurt (in the long) the MCU and Marvel, IMO. Sort of how the Last Jedi has hurt Star Wars, Disney, and possibly the upcoming Han Solo movie.

I'm saying a cosmic motivation to save the universe from a past tragedy in his life works better than trying to impress a girl by killing people.

One is a well-intentioned but evil act while the other makes him Kylo Ren to Darkseid's Vader.

[cilantro]

Well, here's the thing....

You don't have to believe it.

You just have to believe Thanos does.

If you are saying that the MCU motivation is better than the comic book motivation, of course, people will criticize it. And it will hurt (in the long) the MCU and Marvel, IMO. Sort of how the Last Jedi has hurt Star Wars, Disney, and possibly the upcoming Han Solo movie.

I'm saying a cosmic motivation to save the universe from a past tragedy in his life works better than trying to impress a girl by killing people.

One is a well-intentioned but evil act while the other makes him Kylo Ren to Darkseid's Vader.

How is it "well intentional"? If saving the universe was his motivation there were so many different ways that he could've "save the universe" other than killing off half of the population. He literally became God in the sense that he had all 6 stones. Plus, within a generation, two, or three people are just going to make his "killing" null when they produced enough people to reach our levels. Especially with our technology of automation taking over a lot of jobs. It's not going to stop the oil digging, etc...