Dr. WHO: Aliens in London/World War III

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Yeah, the latter days of Sherlock is where we really got to see that in all of its naked horror.

For those of us not familiar, what exactly happened?

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Honestly not sure where to focus. Gonna need to tag in somebody on this.

[Robovski]

This is an in-depth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkoGBOs5ecM

[YAGWG]

"gone metric"

We Limeys will never fully go metric!

Being married to a Russian, this Limey has to be able to work in both metric and imperial units.

[YAGWG]

Oh and Chuck don't do a Cockney accent again.

I'd like to hear Chuck attempt a Birmingham accent (I can just about speak with one, but it sounds more like Dudley than Birmingham).

[YAGWG]

Incidentally, in real life British nuclear submarine captains have autonomy in firing nukes themselves if the situation is dire enough- never mind the UN, not even the British government itself necessarily needs to be consulted before a weapon is fired. The logic for this is that the most likely culprit of a nuclear attack is of course Russia (or those bastards in France of course), and it would not take long at all for a missile fired from Russia to hit the UK (not even counting Russian subs or anything nearer), so unlike the United States (where the President has the sole authority...according to the end of the movie Crimson Tide at least <_<) this type of freedom is (if you're not anti-nuke of course) somewhat warranted.

Seriously!? That is messed up.

The US have an additional Positive Action Lock (PAL) on their nukes, the UK does not - our government trusts our sub commanders (probably because many of them have gone to posh, expensive, private schools and Oxford/Cambridge before joining the Royal Navy).

Disclaimer: I attended a private secondary/high school, but not somewhere like Eton or Harrow.

[Sir Will]

Incidentally, in real life British nuclear submarine captains have autonomy in firing nukes themselves if the situation is dire enough- never mind the UN, not even the British government itself necessarily needs to be consulted before a weapon is fired. The logic for this is that the most likely culprit of a nuclear attack is of course Russia (or those bastards in France of course), and it would not take long at all for a missile fired from Russia to hit the UK (not even counting Russian subs or anything nearer), so unlike the United States (where the President has the sole authority...according to the end of the movie Crimson Tide at least <_<) this type of freedom is (if you're not anti-nuke of course) somewhat warranted.

Seriously!? That is messed up.

The US have an additional Positive Action Lock (PAL) on their nukes, the UK does not - our government trusts our sub commanders (probably because many of them have gone to posh, expensive, private schools and Oxford/Cambridge before joining the Royal Navy).

Disclaimer: I attended a private secondary/high school, but not somewhere like Eton or Harrow.

Because going to posh private schools automatically makes them better? Or is it sarcasm? I can't tell.

[TGLS]

It's most certainly sarcasm. Besides Eton and Harrow are Public schools (but not state schools).

[RobbyB1982]

I for the most part enjoyed Mofatt's run, he and Matt Smith basically did exactly the Doctor Who I always wanted. The fifth season in particular was super good, the next couple a little less so. There were definitely problems though... his female characters had a very particular type that rubs some people the wrong way (River in particular... and Missy...which then carried over to Watson's wife in Sherlock) , and he often got caught up in having a mystery box for a season and then not having a great payoff for it. The mystery of River and Amy's baby, the Doctor's name leading to nothing, basically everything about Clara, and so on.

Also, between showrunning Who and Sherlock, and writing half the Who episodes, he was just spread too thin and you started to see him repeating some of his ideas which, brilliant in isolation, wear thin quick when seen twice or three times.

These are for the most part weaknesses that, were we only getting one or two episodes from Moffatt a year, we might not have every really picked up on, but over the course of about 50 episodes (plus Sherlock) within 6 years became pretty clear.

Also, it's pretty clear he was burned out and ready to leave after the 50th anniversary, and had told all the stories he had to tell, at the latest the first year of Capaldi's run, but mostly stayed because they had no one else to replace him. Season 10 he was absolutely on fumes and everything was kind of weak.

The worst crime isn't that he wasn't brilliant 100% of the time though... it's that as showrunner, he let some surpreme stinkers like Kill The Moon or Forest of the Night and there's just no excuse for anything that bad getting through. But then we also got The Doctor's Wife, Vincent and the Doctor, The Girl WHo Waited, Flatline, Mummy on the Orient Express, and others under his watch so... mostly positive.


All that said. I mostly enjoyed the Moffatt era, and downright loved some of it... while I find most of RTD's era unwatchable. I basically can't tolerate any of the episodes with Rose that weren't the Moffatt eps.