DC Comics General Discussion [Spoilers]

[Wargriffin]

... I don't think we're getting Chris Kent back anytime

Granted he is kinda redundant with Connor on the Horizon and Jon

[Darth Wedgius]

... I don't think we're getting Chris Kent back anytime

Granted he is kinda redundant with Connor on the Horizon and Jon

I hadn't read anything with Chris in it (Super-Sons and the Loony Toons crossovers are about as much as I've read in the past several months). Are the issues worth getting in a collection?

[Wargriffin]

Supersons is awesome

[Wargriffin]

Titans Annaul #2 came out and...

UGHHHHH

This No Justice shake up is gonna have to explain alot of why the Titans don't get back together or Why the Teen Titans break up...

Flash was a pretty decent wrap up to the Storm arc


Hal and Pals
Atleast the Lanterns and the Guardians are on the same page

[yamiangie]

I'm enjoying Hal and the Lanterns a lot, enjoyed the we're going to need a bigger corps line.

Only picked up Nightwing this week from DC, so not much to report.

[MithrandirOlorin]

I have a complicated relationship with a lot of DC Comics published in the 2002-2006 DC Era.

For example, after watching Linkara's video on Identity Crisis, I can say that I basically agree with every single criticism he made, each one technically bugs me too, and I could add others maybe. But I still love it, it's still one of my favorite Comics, probably absolute favorite Justice League story, and one I want to see DC do an Animated movie for.

My love of Identity Crisis is perhaps one of many things that's easier for me to understand now that I've become such an Anime Fan. Anime has helped me realize that I care more about Thematic Relevance then Narrative Relevance.

[Wargriffin]

Identity Crisis works fine as an emotional roller coaster... Its emotion over logic

Its Not Theme over Narrative... cause good gawd the Theme is terrible when you put it together

and the fact that IC becomes the... gold standard for events
'someone dies for a big emotional moment... and a bunch of others die to make room for whatever new plan they have'

IE Sue's death is a big deal... Ronnie's death is glossed over

[MithrandirOlorin]

Ya know the first several times I read it I didn't even notice Firestorm being in it.

[Wargriffin]

Aquaman heads toward it epic conclusion to the Rath arc

[MithrandirOlorin]

Scooby-Doo! & Batman: The Brave and The Bold Is a very good and very fun Animated movie I highly recommend.

I'm a fan of both Dark Batman and Fun Batman, in theory I ultimately like Dark Batman more. But lately it seems like it's only the people making Fun Batman who know how to get it right. Basically once Nolan left the films things went downhill for the Dark Knight.

For Dark Batman we've had at best the misguided Snyder-Affleck take, entertaining but uninspired animated movies that awkwardly mix up Morrison's Batman and New52 Batman missing the point what worked about both, a botched adaptation of the massively overrated Killing Joke, and most recently the horribly insulting Gotham By Gaslight adaptation.

But for Fun Batman we have the underrated Batman Unlimited films, the perfect Adam West and Burt Ward animated movies, and now this wonderful film. It shouldn't be inherently easier to get this version right, as reactions to the Shumacher films show there are ways to make jokes out of these characters that simply saying "It's like the Silver Age" doesn't forgive. I've become much more accepting of those two films over the years, but even I still say they are not as well done as what these actual Cartoons have done in recent years.

My preference for the Dark Knight is what we had in the Comics of the first half of the 2000s and very late 90s, so my personal advice would be for people to use those Comics as their blueprint, there are things from this era I dislike, but mostly that's what I'm nostalgic for. I don't want Batman to be like that from the start however, I want him to be like the O'Niel or Bronze Age Batman (or BTAS and Begins) to start with, but to become hardened by years of losing allies and seemingly failing to make any real progress in his mission. And after that I do like Morrison's vision for bringing him back from that dark edge.

It's become trendy for the kinds of Batman fans who are hosting Podcasts to reject the Batman I like the most. The takes on Batman that Michael Bailey and the Knigthcast podcast prefer are part of how I view the Dark Knight's biography. But mostly what offends me is when My Batman is talked about as if he's the same as Frank Miller's Batman. My Batman at even his Darkest point in War Games and the OMAC Project is not nearly as unstable as the DKR Batman, and he's certainly nothing like THE GODDAMN BATMAN or The Fixer.

Back to the main topic. What I mainly want to talk here is an observation that is inherently a spoiler. So if you haven't seen the movie and are planning to, don't read the rest.

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