George Lucas Midichlorian Sequel Trilogy

[Winter]

Can't we all just hate the Star Wars Holiday Special!?!

[PerrySimm]

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Can't we all just hate the Star Wars Holiday Special!?!

Hate can't be the right word. It was definitely somewhere down the uncanny valley - all our heroes were there, but... everything was just... wrong! Since you mentioned it, an entire trilogy based on med-droids poking petri dishes would be fine, when compared to the discomfort of watching that unfortunate show ever again.

[Deledrius]

I think people have been a little too quick to form strong opinions on this. There's a lot of goofy sounding concepts that end up becoming great movies, and ideas that sound great at first can end up becoming generic, run of the mill stuff. More importantly, maybe someone else knows just how far Lucas got with this (I have no idea myself), but these things can change a lot from concept to production, whether it be from ironing out a script or figuring out what exactly will work on screen.

I agree. I think it has a lot of promise in the pulp opera style. It could have been a fun change of pace that didn't leave people arguing whether it's just a rehash or not.

[Darth Wedgius]

I'm not discounting that there is a possibility that Lucas could have made this work for most fans, but I'm not optimistic, and I think it sounds like Lucas himself wasn't optimistic, either.

(The) Clone Wars cartoons have been pretty well-received by the fandom, haven't they?

After I heard people say maybe Lucas should have kept the franchise, and then hearing this, I wondered if anybody can do Star Wars in a way that appeals to the vast majority of SW fans... But (The) Clone Wars did that, didn't they? I know my nephews loved the hell out of at least one of those shows, and I loved that it gave me at least one good pick for a gift each Christmas.

[Winter]

After I heard people say maybe Lucas should have kept the franchise, and then hearing this, I wondered if anybody can do Star Wars in a way that appeals to the vast majority of SW fans...

They did, in the Thrawn Trilogy. This was a series that had no real input from Lucas outside of the characters that were originally his but other then that Timothy Zahn had complete creative freedom and made a story that appealed not only to Star Wars fans but general critics and readers. It is still regarded as a classic even after 20 years and took a lot of risks, both with it's story by not just retreading the original trilogy but also making the later two books more about Mara and less about Luke and exploring more of the Star Wars universe and expanding the lore.

Even people who have never read the books know of them and their influence can still be felt in Star Wars canon. Palpatine kidnapping and raising children who are strong in the Force to be his personal assassins, Battle Meditation and even Thrawn himself are all huge parts of Star Wars even to this day.

It's my personal belief that Lucas had taken a lot of story ques from TTT while writing the Prequels as the two share a number of story elements and I do think that Zahn had likewise taken notes from Lucas Original Original ideas for his Sequel Trilogy to make TTT. Helping matters is how Zahn created a number of characters who were just as engaging as the Original Trio without subtracting said trio.

So yes it is possible to make a Star Wars story that is just as well loved as The Original Trilogy that appeals to both fans of the series and casual viewers.

[GandALF]

There was already bits of this in final Yoda arc of TCW.

It would have been interesting to see some films set in places like this:



Then again TLJ also draws from that arc so there's infinite butthurt no matter what.

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Then again TLJ also draws from that arc so there's infinite butthurt no matter what.

In what way?

[GandALF]

Then again TLJ also draws from that arc so there's infinite butthurt no matter what.

In what way?

1. Sidious projects himself in manner similar to Luke (although his is an evil version that requires drawing blood unlike Luke)

2. Yoda's first step to becoming immortal involves him sacrificing himself to save Anakin similar to Luke sacrificing himself to save the resistance (also like Obi-Wan and Vader)

3. Yoda comes to terms with the fact he that he has failed to save the Republic and has unwittingly helped the Sith by giving into fear and rushing into war and thereby helping build the Empire, which parallels Luke's fears over Ben. Hence he being the one to remind him that "failure is the best teacher"

5. The Force priestess establishes that there is no morally pure or incorruptible being, the dark side is a part of everyone "You are the beast, the beast is you, to deny it gives it strength" An 800+ year old Yoda is fallible, a middle-aged Luke is fallible. This is part of Luke's disillusionment he believes since he can't be pure and Jedi can't be pure then neither of them are worthy and wants the light to come from a more worthy source, and Yoda has to snap him out it because there is no more worthy source.

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Then again TLJ also draws from that arc so there's infinite butthurt no matter what.

In what way?

1. Sidious projects himself in manner similar to Luke (although his is an evil version that requires drawing blood unlike Luke)

2. Yoda's first step to becoming immortal involves him sacrificing himself to save Anakin similar to Luke sacrificing himself to save the resistance (also like Obi-Wan and Vader)

3. Yoda comes to terms with the fact he that he has failed to save the Republic and has unwittingly helped the Sith by giving into fear and rushing into war and thereby helping build the Empire, which parallels Luke's fears over Ben. Hence he being the one to remind him that "failure is the best teacher"

5. The Force priestess establishes that there is no morally pure or incorruptible being, the dark side is a part of everyone "You are the beast, the beast is you, to deny it gives it strength" An 800+ year old Yoda is fallible, a middle-aged Luke is fallible. This is part of Luke's disillusionment he believes since he can't be pure and Jedi can't be pure then neither of them are worthy and wants the light to come from a more worthy source, and Yoda has to snap him out it because there is no more worthy source.

Ok, nice to meet someone on here who actually likes TLJ.

[MithrandirOlorin]

Then again TLJ also draws from that arc so there's infinite butthurt no matter what.

In what way?

1. Sidious projects himself in manner similar to Luke (although his is an evil version that requires drawing blood unlike Luke)

2. Yoda's first step to becoming immortal involves him sacrificing himself to save Anakin similar to Luke sacrificing himself to save the resistance (also like Obi-Wan and Vader)

3. Yoda comes to terms with the fact he that he has failed to save the Republic and has unwittingly helped the Sith by giving into fear and rushing into war and thereby helping build the Empire, which parallels Luke's fears over Ben. Hence he being the one to remind him that "failure is the best teacher"

5. The Force priestess establishes that there is no morally pure or incorruptible being, the dark side is a part of everyone "You are the beast, the beast is you, to deny it gives it strength" An 800+ year old Yoda is fallible, a middle-aged Luke is fallible. This is part of Luke's disillusionment he believes since he can't be pure and Jedi can't be pure then neither of them are worthy and wants the light to come from a more worthy source, and Yoda has to snap him out it because there is no more worthy source.

Ok, nice to meet someone on here who actually likes TLJ.

But TLJ then backpeddles on those very themes.