Young Woman Still Jailed Indefinitely for Whistleblowing the Russian Election Meddling

This is for topical issues effecting our fair world... you can quit snickering anytime. Note: It is the desire of the leadership of SFDebris Conglomerate that all posters maintain a civil and polite bearing in this forum, regardless of how you feel about any particular issue. Violators will be turned over to Captain Janeway for experimentation.
LittleRaven
Captain
Posts: 1093
Joined: Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:29 pm

Re: Young Woman Still Jailed Indefinitely for Whistleblowing the Russian Election Meddling

Post by LittleRaven »

I have a lot of respect for Snowden. It takes a lot of guts to walk away from a comfortable life to try and shine some light in dark places. I suspect history will largely vindicate him.

But he did still commit a crime.
User avatar
TGLS
Captain
Posts: 2932
Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:16 pm

Re: Young Woman Still Jailed Indefinitely for Whistleblowing the Russian Election Meddling

Post by TGLS »

If Putin asked Snowden, a man who risked lots to reveal sketchy things the government did when liberty was threatened, to hack the American election, Putin's much stupider than I would have thought.
Image
"I know what you’re thinking now. You’re thinking 'Oh my god, that’s treating other people with respect gone mad!'"
When I am writing in this font, I am writing in my moderator voice.
Spam-desu
User avatar
Robovski
Captain
Posts: 1217
Joined: Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:32 pm
Location: Checked out of here

Re: Young Woman Still Jailed Indefinitely for Whistleblowing the Russian Election Meddling

Post by Robovski »

Yeah, he may have committed a crime but it was in the effort to reveal the bigger and deeper crime of the NSA against the American people.

"The russians skewed the election!'' if they did, they did it very easily and at minimal cost or resources. It's like I gathered a troll group to sway the election and somehow found this fertile ground of people willing to go along with what I had to say on public forums, tweets, facebook, ect...
Fuzzy Necromancer
Overlord
Posts: 6320
Joined: Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:57 am

Re: Young Woman Still Jailed Indefinitely for Whistleblowing the Russian Election Meddling

Post by Fuzzy Necromancer »

Robovski wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:50 am Yeah, he may have committed a crime but it was in the effort to reveal the bigger and deeper crime of the NSA against the American people.

"The russians skewed the election!'' if they did, they did it very easily and at minimal cost or resources. It's like I gathered a troll group to sway the election and somehow found this fertile ground of people willing to go along with what I had to say on public forums, tweets, facebook, ect...
When great weights are on the scales, it only takes one thumb's pressure to sway the balance.
Soviet Surplus discount election meddling is still election meddling.
"Believe me, there’s nothing so terrible that someone won’t support it."
— Un Lun Dun, China Mieville
User avatar
Admiral X
Captain
Posts: 2654
Joined: Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:37 am

Re: Young Woman Still Jailed Indefinitely for Whistleblowing the Russian Election Meddling

Post by Admiral X »

Strikes me as more of a modern day red scare than anything else.
"Black care rarely sits behind a rider whose pace is fast enough."
-TR
User avatar
AllanO
Officer
Posts: 323
Joined: Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:38 pm
Contact:

Re: Young Woman Still Jailed Indefinitely for Whistleblowing the Russian Election Meddling

Post by AllanO »

Admiral X wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:12 pm Strikes me as more of a modern day red scare than anything else.
So since during the "red scare" there were actual Soviet spies in the USA your saying that there is a certain amount of Russian meddling? :)
Yours Truly,
Allan Olley

"It is with philosophy as with religion : men marvel at the absurdity of other people's tenets, while exactly parallel absurdities remain in their own." John Stuart Mill
User avatar
Admiral X
Captain
Posts: 2654
Joined: Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:37 am

Re: Young Woman Still Jailed Indefinitely for Whistleblowing the Russian Election Meddling

Post by Admiral X »

Yeah. Probably more along the lines of fake news and the like than this fantasy people have of "hacking" the election.
"Black care rarely sits behind a rider whose pace is fast enough."
-TR
User avatar
TGLS
Captain
Posts: 2932
Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:16 pm

Re: Young Woman Still Jailed Indefinitely for Whistleblowing the Russian Election Meddling

Post by TGLS »

AllanO wrote: Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:48 pm
Admiral X wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:12 pm Strikes me as more of a modern day red scare than anything else.
So since during the "red scare" there were actual Soviet spies in the USA your saying that there is a certain amount of Russian meddling? :)
Well, Venona discovered a number of Soviet agents in America at the same time as the Red Scare, but McCarthy was going after pretty much anybody he didn't like.
Image
"I know what you’re thinking now. You’re thinking 'Oh my god, that’s treating other people with respect gone mad!'"
When I am writing in this font, I am writing in my moderator voice.
Spam-desu
User avatar
Deledrius
Captain
Posts: 1965
Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2017 3:24 pm

Re: Young Woman Still Jailed Indefinitely for Whistleblowing the Russian Election Meddling

Post by Deledrius »

Indeed. The point of the Red Scare's McCarthyism isn't that there weren't legitimate enemies, it's that the threat of legitimate enemies was used to persecute and scapegoat innocent people.

Watch The Monsters are Due on Maple Street if you need an example.
User avatar
AllanO
Officer
Posts: 323
Joined: Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:38 pm
Contact:

Re: Young Woman Still Jailed Indefinitely for Whistleblowing the Russian Election Meddling

Post by AllanO »

Deledrius wrote: Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:14 pm Indeed. The point of the Red Scare's McCarthyism isn't that there weren't legitimate enemies, it's that the threat of legitimate enemies was used to persecute and scapegoat innocent people.
This was sort of my point, I mistakenly did not realize it was Admiral X's point. Hence the smiley face. Apologies...
Yours Truly,
Allan Olley

"It is with philosophy as with religion : men marvel at the absurdity of other people's tenets, while exactly parallel absurdities remain in their own." John Stuart Mill
Post Reply