Brexit Rambles

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Admiral X wrote: Sat Jul 28, 2018 4:26 am I wonder how much longer her administration is going to last.
It certainly won't last beyond BrExit, whether it's a Deal-BrExit or a No-Deal-BrExit. In the later case, why the government would collapse should be obvious. In the former case, the government will be grilled by it's own population and particularly the demagogues who promised streams of honey and wine and grilled animals jumping into their mouths. May is fighting on a loosing position and why ever she was dumb enough to accept that responsibility, particularly considering that she was a Remainer, will forever be beyond me.
LittleRaven wrote: Sat Jul 28, 2018 12:32 amDamn. They're really putting May in a tight spot.
I have little sympathy for a child which got repeatedly told that the hotplate is too hot to touch and then still touches it regardless. Literally noone has an interest in making things smooth to her and the UK and the best part of that is, that there doesn't even need to be any ill will involved, because the world outside the UK has to abide to rules, laws and regulations. You know, the kind of stuff that everyone knew before the request to leave the EU was placed and that Great Britain could and should have been aware of and planned for.
Great article. It perfectly showcases the folly of BrExit as is.

In the end, this will be Britain's "Dolchstoßlegende". The BrExiters will blame May's party for all that is going to almost inevitably go wrong after BrExit, even going so far as to construct a mal intend and a plan to sabotage BrExit by May, and May's own party will lack arguements or positions to counter that myth, because they were dumb enough to go down the road they went down on.
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Madner Kami wrote: Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:10 am In the end, this will be Britain's "Dolchstoßlegende". The BrExiters will blame May's party for all that is going to almost inevitably go wrong after BrExit, even going so far as to construct a mal intend and a plan to sabotage BrExit by May, and May's own party will lack arguements or positions to counter that myth, because they were dumb enough to go down the road they went down on.
That's been a very popular political strategy here in the US for many years now, so it wouldn't surprise me. It's so frustrating because it's a good way to make sure no one wins (but it means you can always blame someone else, which is really the most important thing :roll: ).
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Yikes.
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unknownsample wrote: Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:55 pm
Antiboyscout wrote: Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:42 pm
Wild_Kraken wrote: Thu Jul 26, 2018 10:14 pm
Theresa May says the British public should take 'reassurance and comfort' in the Government's plans to stockpile food and medicines for a no-deal Brexit .

In an interview with 5 News on Wednesday, the Prime Minister did not deny stockpiling is happening, but said the Government is being "responsible and sensible" while still trying to get a good deal with the European Union.

It came after Health Secretary Matt Hancock told MPs on Tuesday he had asked officials to "work up options for stockpiling" by the pharmaceutical industry, and Brexit Secretary Dominic Raab said the Government would also take steps to ensure an "adequate food supply".
You know you've made the correct choice when it leaves you frantically stockpiling food and medicine. What, it's no big deal. All the strongest and most prosperous nations have deep food insecurity, that's what makes them strong. Fuck off Brussels and your EU and your having enough food and medicine.

Now if you'll excuse me, we'll be quite content here in Great Britain, making our unregulated pillow cases. Being able to make them without fire resistant material was totally worth possibly facing starvation.
The USA is the #1 exporter of food in the world
Brazil is the #5 exporter of food in the world

The USA is the #2 exporter of Pharmaceuticals in the world
The UK is the #8 exporter of Pharmaceuticals in the world
India is the #10 exporter of Pharmaceuticals in the world

If the UK can't work out how to get a steady supply of food and Pharmaceutical out of the EU then I don't think they deserve to be a country.
Unfortunately it's a bit more complex than you make it.

http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2018/07 ... looks-like
Nothing says "free trade" like a 22% tariff. Is food not covered in the WTO? Good thing Trump is chipping away at the EU's protectionist measures.
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Yeah like protecting people from American chlorinated chicken.
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unknownsample wrote: Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:01 am Yeah like protecting people from American chlorinated chicken.
What does this mean?
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Deledrius wrote: Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:57 am
unknownsample wrote: Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:01 am Yeah like protecting people from American chlorinated chicken.
What does this mean?
The US and the UK have radically different, often completely incompatible, approaches to food hygiene. For example, in the USA, it's illegal to sell unwashed eggs. In Britain, it's illegal to sell washed eggs.
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Tories warn May not to concede anything else to the EU.
Seven chairmen of Cabinet ministers’ Conservative associations today said they either oppose the plans in their current form or would withdraw their support if Mrs May offered any further concessions to Brussels.

Richard Kellaway, the chairman of Mrs May’s Maidenhead Conservative association, said: “If it were to be diluted it would ultimately not be acceptable”.
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Odds of a no-deal Brexit become "uncomfortably high."
The prospect of a “no-deal Brexit” appears to have grown after the European Union’s negotiator rejected last month central elements of Prime Minister Theresa May’s proposals for a new trade agreement.

Bank of England Governor Mark Carney said on Friday the possibility of Britain leaving the EU without striking any deal with Brussels was “uncomfortably high”. Trade minister Liam Fox has put the chances at 60-40.

May’s office repeated on Monday she believed Britain would negotiate a good agreement but that “no deal is better than a bad deal”.
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Britain warns the EU to 'change it's approach' or risk a no-deal Brexit.
Speaking after a meeting with Finnish counterpart Timo Soini in Helsinki, Mr Hunt warned: "I think the risk of a no Brexit deal has been increasing recently. There is absolutely no guarantee that we will get a deal.

"But it's not what anyone wants and I hope very much that we'll find a way to avoid that. The British government has been doing everything it can to avoid that outcome.

"We do need to see a change in approach by the European Commission."
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