Sarah Jeong and The NY Times

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

I know it's gosh to use wikipedia as a source, but
"The Unite the Right rally, also known as the Charlottesville rally or Charlottesville riots,[4] was a white supremacist[5][6][7][8] rally that occurred in Charlottesville, Virginia, from August 11 to 12, 2017."

You attend a White Supremacist rally, you are a white supremacist.

Were there even more Tiki torch people there than Oath keepers?

Every oath keeper who attended was ready and willing to march alongside people with swastikas shouting "Jews will not replace us!"

The whole thing was a white supremacist rally to support a white supremacist statue honoring the history of a war that white supremacists fought to keep their black slaves.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

That's not what aboutism, that's pointing out the flaw in your "logic." Your response was that if people didn't object to the Nazis, they were Nazis. That's not accurate. Not objecting to a group does not mean you are part of that group.

Also, Trump didn't call Nazis "very fine people." Trump said there were "very fine people" on both sides, and not everyone on the right side was a Nazi, Neo or otherwise. Not everyone was white supremacist or a white identitarian.

Read what I wrote to unknownsample about cars for more information on logic and sets. I thought it was very good.

It might be nice if you could provide some actual evidence that not everyone on the unite the right was a Nazi. That there were fine people on this march to protest the removal of a statue of a man who fought to protect slavery or and here's a interesting thought Trump was talking shite

What kind of evidence would you accept? Wikipedia lists several groups attending that do not identify themselves with national socialism.

Groups that do not publicly identify themselves with national socialism is a pretty low damn bar. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that, if you do Nazi things, and shout Nazi slogans, and march in Nazi marches, you're a Nazi whatever your club press release says.

This is why this is so frustrating to me. When I'm at a protest of Mike Pence, if I saw a fellow protester had a "NAMBLA" sign or some shit, I'd headbutt them on the nose and/or get the fuck out of their. If I am looking at a protest to sign up for, and I see in the description "celebrating the purity of the white race", I'm not gonna go there. There's an answer to your what-aboutism.

If you are siding with Nazis, that should be an invitation to introspection, not a cause to split hairs and make excuses.

[Antiboyscout]

That's not what aboutism, that's pointing out the flaw in your "logic." Your response was that if people didn't object to the Nazis, they were Nazis. That's not accurate. Not objecting to a group does not mean you are part of that group.

Also, Trump didn't call Nazis "very fine people." Trump said there were "very fine people" on both sides, and not everyone on the right side was a Nazi, Neo or otherwise. Not everyone was white supremacist or a white identitarian.

Read what I wrote to unknownsample about cars for more information on logic and sets. I thought it was very good.

It might be nice if you could provide some actual evidence that not everyone on the unite the right was a Nazi. That there were fine people on this march to protest the removal of a statue of a man who fought to protect slavery or and here's a interesting thought Trump was talking shite

What kind of evidence would you accept? Wikipedia lists several groups attending that do not identify themselves with national socialism.

Groups that do not publicly identify themselves with national socialism is a pretty low damn bar. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that, if you do Nazi things, and shout Nazi slogans, and march in Nazi marches, you're a Nazi whatever your club press release says.

This is why this is so frustrating to me. When I'm at a protest of Mike Pence, if I saw a fellow protester had a "NAMBLA" sign or some shit, I'd headbutt them on the nose and/or get the fuck out of their. If I am looking at a protest to sign up for, and I see in the description "celebrating the purity of the white race", I'm not gonna go there. There's an answer to your what-aboutism.

If you are siding with Nazis, that should be an invitation to introspection, not a cause to split hairs and make excuses.

Yet you defend AntiFa. A group that mostly comes in every flavor of Communist from Anarcho to Stalinist.

I guess global revolutionary communists arn't as bad as NAMBLA

[Darth Wedgius]

That's not what aboutism, that's pointing out the flaw in your "logic." Your response was that if people didn't object to the Nazis, they were Nazis. That's not accurate. Not objecting to a group does not mean you are part of that group.

Also, Trump didn't call Nazis "very fine people." Trump said there were "very fine people" on both sides, and not everyone on the right side was a Nazi, Neo or otherwise. Not everyone was white supremacist or a white identitarian.

Read what I wrote to unknownsample about cars for more information on logic and sets. I thought it was very good.

It might be nice if you could provide some actual evidence that not everyone on the unite the right was a Nazi. That there were fine people on this march to protest the removal of a statue of a man who fought to protect slavery or and here's a interesting thought Trump was talking shite

What kind of evidence would you accept? Wikipedia lists several groups attending that do not identify themselves with national socialism.

Groups that do not publicly identify themselves with national socialism is a pretty low damn bar. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that, if you do Nazi things, and shout Nazi slogans, and march in Nazi marches, you're a Nazi whatever your club press release says.

This is why this is so frustrating to me. When I'm at a protest of Mike Pence, if I saw a fellow protester had a "NAMBLA" sign or some shit, I'd headbutt them on the nose and/or get the fuck out of their. If I am looking at a protest to sign up for, and I see in the description "celebrating the purity of the white race", I'm not gonna go there. There's an answer to your what-aboutism.

If you are siding with Nazis, that should be an invitation to introspection, not a cause to split hairs and make excuses.

Are you kidding me? You're going to decide on what someone is, based on your standards for deciding what they are? Really? Does this mean all Antifa are authoritation, anarchist, and socialist all at the same time?

Sorry, I have to disregard your intuition here and go with reason instead.

[Worffan101]

That's not what aboutism, that's pointing out the flaw in your "logic." Your response was that if people didn't object to the Nazis, they were Nazis. That's not accurate. Not objecting to a group does not mean you are part of that group.

Also, Trump didn't call Nazis "very fine people." Trump said there were "very fine people" on both sides, and not everyone on the right side was a Nazi, Neo or otherwise. Not everyone was white supremacist or a white identitarian.

Read what I wrote to unknownsample about cars for more information on logic and sets. I thought it was very good.

It might be nice if you could provide some actual evidence that not everyone on the unite the right was a Nazi. That there were fine people on this march to protest the removal of a statue of a man who fought to protect slavery or and here's a interesting thought Trump was talking shite

What kind of evidence would you accept? Wikipedia lists several groups attending that do not identify themselves with national socialism.

Groups that do not publicly identify themselves with national socialism is a pretty low damn bar. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that, if you do Nazi things, and shout Nazi slogans, and march in Nazi marches, you're a Nazi whatever your club press release says.

This is why this is so frustrating to me. When I'm at a protest of Mike Pence, if I saw a fellow protester had a "NAMBLA" sign or some shit, I'd headbutt them on the nose and/or get the fuck out of their. If I am looking at a protest to sign up for, and I see in the description "celebrating the purity of the white race", I'm not gonna go there. There's an answer to your what-aboutism.

If you are siding with Nazis, that should be an invitation to introspection, not a cause to split hairs and make excuses.

This.

If you're standing by the Nazis waving tiki torches and you aren't either telling them that they're assholes or on your way to some unrelated business, you're an asshole, too.

If I happen to be at a protest and see RCP nuts waving their Maoist rubbish around, I'll tell them to please find somewhere else to march because I may be a dirty Red but I don't associate with cultists like the RCP.

Pretty simple way to live.

[Antiboyscout]

If I happen to be at a protest and see RCP nuts waving their Maoist rubbish around, I'll tell them to please find somewhere else to march because I may be a dirty Red but I don't associate with cultists like the RCP.

If you did that, they would call you a Nazi (or siding with nazi's) and beat you up.

That's the problem

[Admiral X]

It might be nice if you could provide some actual evidence that not everyone on the unite the right was a Nazi. That there were fine people on this march to protest the removal of a statue of a man who fought to protect slavery or and here's a interesting thought Trump was talking shite

This is like claiming you saw a pink dragon, then telling anyone who says they don't believe you that they have to prove you didn't. If you are making the claim, you must provide the evidence.

[Worffan101]

If I happen to be at a protest and see RCP nuts waving their Maoist rubbish around, I'll tell them to please find somewhere else to march because I may be a dirty Red but I don't associate with cultists like the RCP.

If you did that, they would call you a Nazi (or siding with nazi's) and beat you up.

That's the problem

Yes, the RCP are crazy. The whole "party" is a glorified personality cult around Bob Avakian, just like the TWP and Richard Spencer's gang are personality cults of Hitler, and r/thedonald is a personality cult around our idiot leader.

It's a fact of life. Some people are fucking nuts who need to be told to shut the fuck up and go away. Stopped clock's right twice a day, and on the flip side, 10% of any species are nut jobs.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

If I happen to be at a protest and see RCP nuts waving their Maoist rubbish around, I'll tell them to please find somewhere else to march because I may be a dirty Red but I don't associate with cultists like the RCP.

If you did that, they would call you a Nazi (or siding with nazi's) and beat you up.

That's the problem

And some things are worth getting beaten up for. What's your point?

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

That's not what aboutism, that's pointing out the flaw in your "logic." Your response was that if people didn't object to the Nazis, they were Nazis. That's not accurate. Not objecting to a group does not mean you are part of that group.

Also, Trump didn't call Nazis "very fine people." Trump said there were "very fine people" on both sides, and not everyone on the right side was a Nazi, Neo or otherwise. Not everyone was white supremacist or a white identitarian.

Read what I wrote to unknownsample about cars for more information on logic and sets. I thought it was very good.

It might be nice if you could provide some actual evidence that not everyone on the unite the right was a Nazi. That there were fine people on this march to protest the removal of a statue of a man who fought to protect slavery or and here's a interesting thought Trump was talking shite

What kind of evidence would you accept? Wikipedia lists several groups attending that do not identify themselves with national socialism.

Groups that do not publicly identify themselves with national socialism is a pretty low damn bar. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that, if you do Nazi things, and shout Nazi slogans, and march in Nazi marches, you're a Nazi whatever your club press release says.

This is why this is so frustrating to me. When I'm at a protest of Mike Pence, if I saw a fellow protester had a "NAMBLA" sign or some shit, I'd headbutt them on the nose and/or get the fuck out of their. If I am looking at a protest to sign up for, and I see in the description "celebrating the purity of the white race", I'm not gonna go there. There's an answer to your what-aboutism.

If you are siding with Nazis, that should be an invitation to introspection, not a cause to split hairs and make excuses.

Are you kidding me? You're going to decide on what someone is, based on your standards for deciding what they are? Really? Does this mean all Antifa are authoritation, anarchist, and socialist all at the same time?

Sorry, I have to disregard your intuition here and go with reason instead.

This isn't intuition. This is analysis.

If somebody says "I'm just attending this Lower the Age of Consent to 9 Rally out of interest", I'm not taking their word for it. We are defined by our choices, not our spin.