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Nealithi wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:41 pmI would point out the article cites that the BMI test is limited and should not be used alone. Because people like to over simplify. Guess what, they over simplify often.
The problems with BMI are greatly exaggerated. Sure, it can break down in individual cases, but statistically, it's perfectly valid.
If your BMI says that you are not obese, the odds are overwhelming that you aren't. If your BMI says you ARE obese, then the odds are very, very good that you are. Sure, if you're a heavy duty athlete, then those odds go down...but honestly, if you're a heavy duty athlete, you don't care what your BMI says.
Okay and what should a six foot one inch male weight properly according to the BMI?
When I was in the Air Force in the early ninties it was 160lbs. 165 was over weight.
Nealithi wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:34 pm Okay and what should a six foot one inch male weight properly according to the BMI?
As you can see, an individual that's 6-1 can weigh up to 190 pounds before they cross into the 'overweight' territory, and needs to be well over 200 before obese starts to be an option.
Now sure, this doesn't work for some populations. UT football players, for instance. Kaleb Smith is 6-3 and 275 pounds, and no, he's not remotely obese. But the vast, VAST bulk of Americans are not college athletes. The BMI is quite useful as a statistical population tool. If your BMI is high but your doctor says you're fine...then you're fine, don't worry about it. But if you haven't seen your doctor, and your BMI is high....consider dropping by.
I've heard that the usual BMI definitions bias towards saying you're too heavy if tall and the other way around if light, although it'll depend upon build. Might shift me from being only just off obese to being merely overweight. Either way I could stand to lose two or three stone.
Nealithi wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:34 pm Okay and what should a six foot one inch male weight properly according to the BMI?
As you can see, an individual that's 6-1 can weigh up to 190 pounds before they cross into the 'overweight' territory, and needs to be well over 200 before obese starts to be an option.
Now sure, this doesn't work for some populations. UT football players, for instance. Kaleb Smith is 6-3 and 275 pounds, and no, he's not remotely obese. But the vast, VAST bulk of Americans are not college athletes. The BMI is quite useful as a statistical population tool. If your BMI is high but your doctor says you're fine...then you're fine, don't worry about it. But if you haven't seen your doctor, and your BMI is high....consider dropping by.
I wish someone gave me this chart in 1990 because I am serious about what the military said about weight and BMI.
Riedquat wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:43 pm
I've heard that the usual BMI definitions bias towards saying you're too heavy if tall and the other way around if light, although it'll depend upon build. Might shift me from being only just off obese to being merely overweight. Either way I could stand to lose two or three stone.
Could be. I'm 6' and a smidge and if I get to even the upper range of my BMI-approved weight, people tell me I need to eat more. But I'm kind of built weird, too.
Riedquat wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:43 pm
I've heard that the usual BMI definitions bias towards saying you're too heavy if tall and the other way around if light, although it'll depend upon build. Might shift me from being only just off obese to being merely overweight. Either way I could stand to lose two or three stone.
Could be. I'm 6' and a smidge and if I get to even the upper range of my BMI-approved weight, people tell me I need to eat more. But I'm kind of built weird, too.
I'm 6'3" tall and with definitely too much around the middle, there's quite an overhang there. There's nothing actually wrong with my health (other than being unfit too) but it's not going to do me any good.
Darth Wedgius wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:47 pmI'm 6' and a smidge and if I get to even the upper range of my BMI-approved weight, people tell me I need to eat more.
I have no doubt. Human being are very relative creatures. Our idea of normal is naturally shaped by what we see around us. And Americans, being so very heavy, are starting to see heavy as 'normal.' Which is great in terms of social stigma, but bad for health outcomes.
Darth Wedgius wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:47 pmAnd Americans, being so very heavy, are starting to see heavy as 'normal.' Which is great in terms of social stigma, but bad for health outcomes.
That is the exact fucking opposite of what the case is.
Turn on a TV show. Open a magazine. Every single person is below average weight. If you see a fat person, that will be a headless body in an info-video with Concerned Music playing, and there's always that one fat guy in a red shirt riding a bicycle.
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