Was it a good idea for Disney to throw out the whole EU?

[Deledrius]

That kitchen sink had video games that were recognizable brands that were thrown out for no reason. This is not 1999.Video games do matter.

I agree.

[Wargriffin]

The Star wars EU had the worst form of quality control and consistency due to GL's LEVELS OF CANON

Which unless it contradicts the Movies and Clone Wars, It can to some extent exist...


I mean look a the Ki Adi Mundi is married thing.

Basically before AOTCs came out, comic series was trying to flesh out the Jedi and was doing so in the Style of Knights of the Old Republic 'before Bioware butchered the Setting' so Ki being married was brought up... then again in the Comics the Younger generation of Jedi are boning each other or have lovers so why Ki being married is brought up as particular is beyond me

Then GL clarified that The Jedi were alot more Classical Monk like and not Adventurous Knight Errand like figures .


Which in any competently run EU would have been Retcon'd or Explored the moment it got called into question instead what you got is They clarify it as some special exception and then Proceed to Write Ki like a Normal GL Mandated Jedi. Its basically a useless piece of Trivia that may or may not be true... since I'm pretty sure Ki being Married has been contradicted in the very same comics that introduced it where his Race DOESN'T Have a low population problem. In fact I think the low population problem was given to Shakk-Ti and Ahsoka's race


Which is what the EU is full of Instead of just outright Retconning shit or some form of Creative Control You've got everybody an their mother throwing their view into the Star wars universe

Basically You can have one Author say this, and then the next writer can contradict him/her in the next book. Hell several of the big story arcs are filled with petty pissing contests between the Writers.


The Star wars EU is a classic case of the Inmates are running the Asylum and no one could get them under control.


Ironically The Baron himself in all of this only really issued two edicts that would effect the EU as it was.

No Wookiee Jedi

and

Anakin Solo had to die


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Here is the thing... Throwing the EU out was a creative liberation move... I love Kyle but He's one of the countless Legendary Jedi that would come characters that the EU spawned 'Remember Kyp!'

You are not gonna get a bunch of new talent to push the SW EU in a new direction and then dictate a largely incoherent contradictory mess is the rules they have to follow... Its not gonna fucking happen... since largely only a few of the EU characters were worth keeping to begin with

Hell They have a full on quality control of the current EU and TLJ shat all over that.

[Yukaphile]

Well, one could understanding throwing out Legends. But then why bring Legends elements into the "new canon" without bringing ALL of them? And no, saying "the old continuity had levels of canon" is bullshit. The new canon is cherry-picking certain elements, but not all, to add to the "new canon." Not Mara Jade. Not the Yuuzhan Vong. Why not do something fresh and entirely new? New worlds, new species, new characters, new ships, new organizations, etc? But that would require a modicum of creativity and art and imagination that these new creators just don't have. They exist in a nebulous middle ground between doing something truly new and still tying themselves to Legends without having Legends be canon. That's frustrating as hell, and it's why I won't give the new materials a chance. Hell, didn't Last Jedi pretty much contradict what the new EU had been setting up? So don't give me that excuse. The new material is being pumped out so quickly it will eventually contradict itself just as much as Legends. So basically they're just pissing all over Legends by adding some elements, not all, to the new canon. No Yuuzhan Vong. No Kreia. No "Force-dead" beings. Just a bunch of control freaks who are piggybacking off the success of others and don't have a single creative bone in their bodies.

[Darth Wedgius]

Is Star Tours still canon? It's Disney, so it should have some kind of an edge...

[Karha of Honor]

The Star wars EU had the worst form of quality control and consistency due to GL's LEVELS OF CANON

Which unless it contradicts the Movies and Clone Wars, It can to some extent exist...


I mean look a the Ki Adi Mundi is married thing.

Basically before AOTCs came out, comic series was trying to flesh out the Jedi and was doing so in the Style of Knights of the Old Republic 'before Bioware butchered the Setting' so Ki being married was brought up... then again in the Comics the Younger generation of Jedi are boning each other or have lovers so why Ki being married is brought up as particular is beyond me

Then GL clarified that The Jedi were alot more Classical Monk like and not Adventurous Knight Errand like figures .


Which in any competently run EU would have been Retcon'd or Explored the moment it got called into question instead what you got is They clarify it as some special exception and then Proceed to Write Ki like a Normal GL Mandated Jedi. Its basically a useless piece of Trivia that may or may not be true... since I'm pretty sure Ki being Married has been contradicted in the very same comics that introduced it where his Race DOESN'T Have a low population problem. In fact I think the low population problem was given to Shakk-Ti and Ahsoka's race


Which is what the EU is full of Instead of just outright Retconning shit or some form of Creative Control You've got everybody an their mother throwing their view into the Star wars universe

Basically You can have one Author say this, and then the next writer can contradict him/her in the next book. Hell several of the big story arcs are filled with petty pissing contests between the Writers.


The Star wars EU is a classic case of the Inmates are running the Asylum and no one could get them under control.


Ironically The Baron himself in all of this only really issued two edicts that would effect the EU as it was.

No Wookiee Jedi

and

Anakin Solo had to die


_____
Here is the thing... Throwing the EU out was a creative liberation move... I love Kyle but He's one of the countless Legendary Jedi that would come characters that the EU spawned 'Remember Kyp!'

You are not gonna get a bunch of new talent to push the SW EU in a new direction and then dictate a largely incoherent contradictory mess is the rules they have to follow... Its not gonna fucking happen... since largely only a few of the EU characters were worth keeping to begin with

Hell They have a full on quality control of the current EU and TLJ shat all over that.

Just a few based on what? Why throw out everything before the Ruusan Reformations?

[Deledrius]

Is Star Tours still canon? It's Disney, so it should have some kind of an edge...

The original, or the version 2? The original was at least a single, set story. I suppose it could have happened, although it was a bit of a mish-mash of events. But still, a tour bus routing people from planet to planet in the outer rim? Sure, why not. One gone astray and ends up playing a role in the Battle of Yavin? That's stretching things.

Version 2 doesn't have a coherent or consistent narrative. Literally. The ride is randomized in segments. The only through-line is that there is a rebel spy on board, and C-3PO and R2-D2 (Poor Rex, you are missed) are trying to get them to safety, despite multiple setbacks and detours. I'm not sure what could even be made canon here.

Still, for over a decade Star Tours was the only thing keeping Star Wars alive in the years between, and Disney was a good steward. It always baffled me when people decried "I don't want Disney to touch Star Wars" in the lead-up to the acquisition. So much ignorance.

[Karha of Honor]

It always baffled me when people decried "I don't want Disney to touch Star Wars" in the lead-up to the acquisition. So much ignorance.

They were right. There are other studios or any type of biug business would have gladly bought it.