Bombing Democrats?
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A Trump voter. What a surprise.
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In all seriousness, check your meds.Worffan101 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:45 pmIn all seriousness, under any other President this guy would've been sent to Gitmo and the FBI would be engaged in a nationwide roundup of right-wing extremists while the President gave a solemn speech condemning political violence on TV right about now.
Unless you can point to a single historical example of anything remotely resembling what you describe.
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What is it with Libertarians, though? They're all convinced this is just a big political stunt to rally the base? Yes, seriously. We're going to blow up ourselves to get people out to vote... seriously...
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I dunno man, why don't you ask our resident centrist libertarian reasonable moderate person?
Maybe it's because admitting that politically-motivated bombing of democrats is real, and that the same thing isn't happening to republicans, would force them to let go of their Bad Episode of South Park worldview and recognize that, politically, they have more in common with the people sending pipe bombs than the people receiving them.
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Looking at the facts available, I see two possibilities:
1) Whoever made these devices was a grade A moron who had no clue how to actually build a bomb.
2) It's all a Wounded Gazelle Gambit.
Assuming Possibility #1 holds true, does anyone with a functioning celebral cortex really think someone like George Soros actually goes out to the mailbox to get his own mail? Hell no. Even if the device had been an actual, working bomb and not a useless piece of rubbish, all the bomber would've accomplished would be killing one of Soros's servants; they wouldn't have got the man himself.
As for Possibility #2, nothing surprises me anymore, not in this political climate.
1) Whoever made these devices was a grade A moron who had no clue how to actually build a bomb.
2) It's all a Wounded Gazelle Gambit.
Assuming Possibility #1 holds true, does anyone with a functioning celebral cortex really think someone like George Soros actually goes out to the mailbox to get his own mail? Hell no. Even if the device had been an actual, working bomb and not a useless piece of rubbish, all the bomber would've accomplished would be killing one of Soros's servants; they wouldn't have got the man himself.
As for Possibility #2, nothing surprises me anymore, not in this political climate.
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A putsch??? The Hell did you get that?Robovski wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:51 pmSo you are saying any other President would have had a putsch? But Trump isn't having one because fake bombs could blow up Hillary, the reason he is President?Worffan101 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:45 pmBUT ANARCHISTS!CharlesPhipps wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:59 pm Antifa breaking windows being compared to actual pipe bombs is embarrassing for the people trying to draw equivalence.
Mind you drawing equivalence is embarrassing to begin with.
Condemn the people involved without trying to do "both sides" bullshit.
In all seriousness, under any other President this guy would've been sent to Gitmo and the FBI would be engaged in a nationwide roundup of right-wing extremists while the President gave a solemn speech condemning political violence on TV right about now. Trump, of course, won't do that because he would like nothing more than for Hillary Clinton to be blown up.
No, I'm saying that a President with balls would take this latest outrage after almost two years of open neo-Nazi agitation and literal murder of civilians in terrorist attacks by said neo-Nazis, and would say "clearly the problem is the Nazis. Mattis, get rid of them." But Trump has every reason, from political advantage with the Nazis to his own hatred for any woman who ever beat him in any way or even dared to stand up to him, to not only want Clinton dead but also to let this crazy bomber off lightly.
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There really hasn't BEEN a situation like this before, with active neo-Nazi violence in the streets even without the President actively egging them on. Sure, there've been a few neo-Nazi rallies before, but nothing on this scale, and even in the days when the KKK was running rampage they were smart enough to stick to murdering black people who weren't famous, instead of trying to kill politicians.LittleRaven wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:31 pmIn all seriousness, check your meds.Worffan101 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:45 pmIn all seriousness, under any other President this guy would've been sent to Gitmo and the FBI would be engaged in a nationwide roundup of right-wing extremists while the President gave a solemn speech condemning political violence on TV right about now.
Unless you can point to a single historical example of anything remotely resembling what you describe.
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As I posted earlier:Worffan101 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 27, 2018 1:11 amThere really hasn't BEEN a situation like this before, with active neo-Nazi violence in the streets even without the President actively egging them on. Sure, there've been a few neo-Nazi rallies before, but nothing on this scale, and even in the days when the KKK was running rampage they were smart enough to stick to murdering black people who weren't famous, instead of trying to kill politicians.LittleRaven wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:31 pmIn all seriousness, check your meds.Worffan101 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:45 pmIn all seriousness, under any other President this guy would've been sent to Gitmo and the FBI would be engaged in a nationwide roundup of right-wing extremists while the President gave a solemn speech condemning political violence on TV right about now.
Unless you can point to a single historical example of anything remotely resembling what you describe.
http://time.com/4501670/bombings-of-america-burrough/
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Steve Schmidt weighs in on the bomber
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You right wingers really don't understand Democrats. At all. We don't need this guy to rally the base, okay? We're already angry enough. And past that, to claim Democratic leadership set this up, with intent to cause damage just to rally the base, is horrible. I can't even see the GOP doing that. Others have said it best. He was a loser who saw Trump, who is an even bigger loser, justifying guys like him, and so he finally took it out on the world.
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