Speculation: SF Debris's view on "Silicon Avatar"

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Fine you can't condemn it morally... but from a practical point of view Its a threat to the Galaxy that should be wiped out with the same extreme prejudice that the Federation puts into the Omega directive 'IE drop what your doing and help us bomb this civilization back to the stone age'

Its a threat to your galactic biosphere

Why? It completely destroys a a planets ability to sustain life 'which in a Galaxy doesn't sound all that bad' however habitable planets are hard to come by when you have multiple expanding powers and Terraforming isn't as up to snuff

Yeah the colonists you can move... but what about the unique ecosystems'IE the indigenous plant and wild life' the Entity robs from the universe how many viable cures were just waiting to be found now lost forever cause of a being that has no care but to slick its hunger? Worlds that are cradles for the next major civilization gone because a lovecraftian horror appeared for its mid morning brunch.
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Actually, I think you can, given that it's shown to be intelligent enough to work with Lore. Though I suppose Picard might have felt pity, in a "maybe it can't survive any other way, we should help it" kind of sense. He would then think killing it rather than offering an alternative is taking revenge, which he frowns on. It is sadly consistent with Gene's view that humans just shrug off death, and it takes me back to Kirk's line from, what was it? "The Cloud?" On how he was obsessed with revenge. And he admitted maybe he was. McCoy countered revenge won't bring the dead back. Kirk conceded, but then added, "it might mean they rest easy." Another reason to highlight the ways Gene hurt, rather than helped, in the creation of Star Trek.
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We don't think a bear that eats a camper is evil, but we'll still kill the mankiller. And that's a BEAR. Not a kilometer long crystalline space predator that wipes planets clean.
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Lore thought the crystalline entity would be grateful for the 1000+ people on the Enterprise... It was never clear to me what that gratitude was worth to Lore. It'd twinkle extra hard?
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Darth Wedgius wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:15 am Lore thought the crystalline entity would be grateful for the 1000+ people on the Enterprise... It was never clear to me what that gratitude was worth to Lore. It'd twinkle extra hard?
Maybe it promised to show him a love like his father never could.
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Of course, it's all academic as the entity couldn't even be bothered to rescue Lore when he got beamed off the ship into space. With partners like that, who needs enemies?
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If the Crystaline Entity is intelligent, it's a mass murderer.

If it's a dog, it's an animal which is incredibly dangerous but not necessarily evil.

Picard's attitude is that it is just misunderstood and capable of being communicated with--which is not backed up by either.
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Good point.
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The Crystalline Entity could be intelligent, but also unable to perceive that humanoid beings are intelligent. It could be a Little Fuzzy situation, except in this case humans are the Fuzzies.
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Then how was Lore able to communicate with it? What was he telling it?
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