Babylon 5: Grail

This forum is for discussing Chuck's videos as they are publicly released. And for bashing Neelix, but that's just repeating what I already said.
User avatar
CrypticMirror
Captain
Posts: 926
Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:15 am

Re: Babylon 5: Grail

Post by CrypticMirror »

Robovski wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:21 am Planets aren't tiny places, and the planet is basically uninhabited. A controlled deorbit to drop it on the far side shouldn't be a problem.
At five miles long, and two million and five hundred thousand tonnes (according to the opening narration of S1) of mass -much of it composed of exotic metals and materials-, this is not going to be like dropping an old weather satellite into Point Nemo. There are way too many ways that could go wrong, and the destruction would be monumental. Also, the Draal point. He lives there and would neither want the environmental damage nor the the risk of it going wrong and dropping part of it even slightly near the incredibly complicated "Great Machine".
User avatar
Robovski
Captain
Posts: 1217
Joined: Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:32 pm
Location: Checked out of here

Re: Babylon 5: Grail

Post by Robovski »

CrypticMirror wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:43 am
Robovski wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:21 am Planets aren't tiny places, and the planet is basically uninhabited. A controlled deorbit to drop it on the far side shouldn't be a problem.
At five miles long, and two million and five hundred thousand tonnes (according to the opening narration of S1) of mass -much of it composed of exotic metals and materials-, this is not going to be like dropping an old weather satellite into Point Nemo. There are way too many ways that could go wrong, and the destruction would be monumental. Also, the Draal point. He lives there and would neither want the environmental damage nor the the risk of it going wrong and dropping part of it even slightly near the incredibly complicated "Great Machine".
The guy barely no-one else knows about? That is supposed to be a great big secret and doesn't want revealed?
Void
Redshirt
Posts: 10
Joined: Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:51 am

Re: Babylon 5: Grail

Post by Void »

Ironically, Kosh had the grail. It shows up in the background at one point as a random looking object in Kosh's quarters.
Archanubis
Officer
Posts: 248
Joined: Fri Jun 02, 2017 2:15 pm

Re: Babylon 5: Grail

Post by Archanubis »

Robovski wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:52 am
CrypticMirror wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:43 am
Robovski wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:21 am Planets aren't tiny places, and the planet is basically uninhabited. A controlled deorbit to drop it on the far side shouldn't be a problem.
At five miles long, and two million and five hundred thousand tonnes (according to the opening narration of S1) of mass -much of it composed of exotic metals and materials-, this is not going to be like dropping an old weather satellite into Point Nemo. There are way too many ways that could go wrong, and the destruction would be monumental. Also, the Draal point. He lives there and would neither want the environmental damage nor the the risk of it going wrong and dropping part of it even slightly near the incredibly complicated "Great Machine".
The guy barely no-one else knows about? That is supposed to be a great big secret and doesn't want revealed?
You mean the one who basically made a public announcement telling everyone to buzz off?
User avatar
CrypticMirror
Captain
Posts: 926
Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:15 am

Re: Babylon 5: Grail

Post by CrypticMirror »

Robovski wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:52 am
CrypticMirror wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:43 am
Robovski wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:21 am Planets aren't tiny places, and the planet is basically uninhabited. A controlled deorbit to drop it on the far side shouldn't be a problem.
At five miles long, and two million and five hundred thousand tonnes (according to the opening narration of S1) of mass -much of it composed of exotic metals and materials-, this is not going to be like dropping an old weather satellite into Point Nemo. There are way too many ways that could go wrong, and the destruction would be monumental. Also, the Draal point. He lives there and would neither want the environmental damage nor the the risk of it going wrong and dropping part of it even slightly near the incredibly complicated "Great Machine".
The guy barely no-one else knows about? That is supposed to be a great big secret and doesn't want revealed?
Yeah, that guy. The guy known to senior members of Earth military, the leadership of the Interstellar Alliance, the surviving Telepaths, the Rangers, the Minbari, and whatever the heck Garibaldi had going on then, that guy. The one who owns a machine capable of ripping the fabric of spacetime a new asshole. That is the guy. When you are that guy, you don't need to do anything as crass and vulgar as ask for favours like not having your planet messed up, people just arrange it so it happens that way all on their own.
User avatar
Madner Kami
Captain
Posts: 4019
Joined: Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:35 pm

Re: Babylon 5: Grail

Post by Madner Kami »

Void wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:03 am Ironically, Kosh had the grail. It shows up in the background at one point as a random looking object in Kosh's quarters.
Um, source?
"If you get shot up by an A6M Reisen and your plane splits into pieces - does that mean it's divided by Zero?
- xoxSAUERKRAUTxox
User avatar
Deledrius
Captain
Posts: 1965
Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2017 3:24 pm

Re: Babylon 5: Grail

Post by Deledrius »

J!! wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:59 pm Do the Zaathras's not have enough work to do without having to clean up 500000000 tons of debris as well?
It is Zathras' lot in life.
User avatar
Kinky Vorlon
Officer
Posts: 131
Joined: Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:29 pm

Re: Babylon 5: Grail

Post by Kinky Vorlon »

Artabax wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:16 am
J!! wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:36 pm I can't be the only one who has those two episodes confused, can I?
Late Delivery Marcus is exposition guy. Grail Guest star is exposition guy. That is how to tell the difference. Sure they are both Arthur Pendragon and the Matter of Britain. But...

When Sheridan got White Star 1, that was Excaliburn. The whole of Babylon 5 is Matter of Britain. Vorlons = Druids; Shadows = Saxons.
Kosh=Merlin
Mr. Morden=Tim the Enchanter
The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us. And our lives slip away moment by moment lost in that vast, terrible in-between.
Artabax
Officer
Posts: 269
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:03 pm

Re: Babylon 5: Grail

Post by Artabax »

This version: destroy it so pirates can't have the weapons makes sense. What a pity that in the actual show they destroyed B5 because it's a danger to navigation???

Scenario 1) PILOT: Captain, Captain, there is a 5 mile long space station.
CAPTAIN: So, steer around it. Danger to navigation my ass.

Scenario 2) PILOT: Captain, there is a million mile wide cloud of spinning shrapnel.
CAPTAIN: Hail Mary, full of Grace, the Lord is with Thee...

Scenario 3) CAPTAIN: Is the course ahead clear?
PILOT: Nothing detected, Sir.
CAPTAIN: But on the other hand, a million mile wide cloud of spinning shrapnel would be too diffuse to be detected by our instruments.
Console explodes. More consoles explode.
Self sealing stem bolts don't just seal themselves, you know.
User avatar
CrypticMirror
Captain
Posts: 926
Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:15 am

Re: Babylon 5: Grail

Post by CrypticMirror »

Being a hazard to navigation doesn't just mean a direct problem, being a base for pirates or for someone who could use it to start tinkering with the jump gate beacons is also a valid use of the term. They are all things that can interfere with the free passage of vessels through the region.
Post Reply