I'm to trust Richard Spencer? When has he accused the 'migrant caravan'of 'coming for our women?' Quotes, please.Worffan101 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:23 pmDude, he could literally hail Hitler and you'd rush to his defense with how it's just "ironic" or something.Darth Wedgius wrote: ↑Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:34 amHe never called Nazis "very fine people." He said there were very fine people on both sides of a particular disagreement, some people on one side were Nazis, and some on the left decided those were the ones Trump meant.Worffan101 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:55 amThis argument kind of loses a lot of weight when the President is openly calling Nazis "very fine people" and using '30s-style racist stereotypes in his xenophobic rants, Darth. You don't have to work to find evidence of Trump being awful, just wait for him to open his mouth.Darth Wedgius wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:42 pmSo, "sure, lots of evidence, go find it yourself"....Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:52 pmHow about you read what the man says on his twitter feed for a start? Like, actually read it, and watch his rallies, and take note of the many words coming out of his fat gob. I know it's not exactly easy to get through without some pepto-bismol and a stiff drink, but maybe if you could be bothered to apply a fraction of your attention and a few crumbs of active listening other people wouldn't have to spoon-feed you their hot takes on the hateful rhetoric he's been spewing non-stop since before he took office. As it is, I really feel like effort on my part would be wasted because when I point to anything short of the man dancing naked on the washington monument with "GO FORTH MY MINIONS AND KILL THE BROWN INVADERS" tattooed on his nutsack would be responded to with an accusation of self-proclaimed mind-reading powers.Darth Wedgius wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:04 pm
That tacit encouragement happens to be something you've got to read between the lines for, I take it?
If you can't point out xenophobia or 30s-style racist stereotypes, or if those are also as much assumptions on your part as the very-fine-Nazis assumption, then I think I have my answer.
His rants against the 'migrant caravan' are laden with '30s-era "they're coming for our wimminz!" tropes like overemphasizing how many "strong young men" are allegedly part of this 'caravan' as it that were a bad thing. He very much did call the Nazis very fine people, and the Nazis themselves went and bragged about it--just look at what Richard Spencer said about it afterwards. He accused Mexican immigrants of being "criminals and rapists" when in real life immigrants are by FAR the LEAST likely demographic to commit crimes. He failed to mention, on Holocaust Remembrance Day, that Jews were the primary victims of the fucking Holocaust.
Trump is a fucking racist, Darth, and your attempts to obfuscate that are pathetic as all Hell.
Here is the quote about "criminals and rapists":
You can call that xenophobic if you want, but I don't see it.When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.
And as far as what you believe I'd say in some hypothetical situation, that is of no significance.