Trip/T'Pol weren't first

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

♬ If you're wondering how they eat and breed ♬
♬ And other science facts (la la la) ♬
♬ Then repeat to yourself "It's just a show" ♬
♬ "I should really just relax" ♬

Here's the catch 22 with that: yes, its only a show, its only fiction. But without audience engagement, without the audience caring, then you simply will not build a fifty year franchise like Star Trek is.
Star Wars tried that ''just don't care because its not real'' argument, and Solo failed to make its money back and Rian Johnson lost his job. Fallout 76 tried that ''just don't care because its not real'' argument, and its the lowest rated modern Fallout game. You want to kill your bottom line? Tell the franchise ''not to care because its not real.''

The problems of Fallout 76 have less to do with continuity and fictional biology and more to do with it being a mess of cowboy coding that crashes more than the Voyager shuttles they save for the really dangerous missions.

[CharlesPhipps]

They can have babies with each other because they're meant to stand for human races not aliens aliens.

[Madner Kami]

♬ If you're wondering how they eat and breed ♬
♬ And other science facts (la la la) ♬
♬ Then repeat to yourself "It's just a show" ♬
♬ "I should really just relax" ♬

Here's the catch 22 with that: yes, its only a show, its only fiction. But without audience engagement, without the audience caring, then you simply will not build a fifty year franchise like Star Trek is.
Star Wars tried that ''just don't care because its not real'' argument, and Solo failed to make its money back and Rian Johnson lost his job. Fallout 76 tried that ''just don't care because its not real'' argument, and its the lowest rated modern Fallout game. You want to kill your bottom line? Tell the franchise ''not to care because its not real.''

The problems of Fallout 76 have less to do with continuity and fictional biology and more to do with it being a mess of cowboy coding that crashes more than the Voyager shuttles they save for the really dangerous missions.

Except that this is true for Fallout 3, New Vegas and Fallout 4 as well and they are regarded pretty damn well by the Fallout community. So you'll get one more try to figure out why nobody likes Fallout 76. Hint: The difference is not shoddy coding.

[Admiral X]

Given how they were written on the show, I'm not that surprised that Trip and T'Pol could be the first human/Vulcan couple due to the prejudice they both had for each other. Honestly it's kind of surprising how much they were supposed to have worked together given the animosity on display between them, particularly in the first couple of seasons. I will say, though, that part of my disappointment with how TATV broke them up with no explanation, was that their relationship could be seen as analogous to interracial relationships, and it was almost like B&B were saying they just couldn't work out.

[Yukaphile]

Berman and Braga couldn't make anything work out. Those two were like Laurel and Hardy, only without any actual talent.

[Durandal_1707]

Berman oversaw the conversion of TNG into a show that didn't suck, and Braga was involved in a whole lot of the most entertaining episodes of the last few seasons of TNG. Lack of talent wasn't the problem.

[Yukaphile]

That was Michael Piller. He was the unsung hero since Season 3. Berman was right there at the beginning, as far as I can tell, alongside Gene Roddenberry, and struck me as similar to him in many ways. He was a raging homophobe and transphobe, for example, while Roddenberry was beyond misogynistic. And prejudice is never right. He was responsible for the worst of Trek's excesses, second only to Roddenberry, such as how Voyager floundered so often. I don't doubt his commitment to wanting to make Trek work, that he cared about the franchise. But like Roddenberry and the company he kept, there was always a strain of ego to it, and it was about his need to be guardian of the franchise. Yet the history of the series proves the opposite approach was needed, like with Wrath of Khan, and new writers coming on board in TNG and DS9. If Berman had kept his hands out of Enterprise and actually handed off control of Nemesis to someone else, I am convinced they would have fared a lot better.

[Admiral X]

Piller also gave us Insurrection. They all made plenty of positive decisions in the past, but this didn't make them immune from having bad ideas or even just running out of ideas.

[Yukaphile]

Very true, but I don't think Piller was a raging homophobe/transphobe. Though he strikes me as the "anti-choice" type... maybe. Hopefully not.

[Durandal_1707]

Piller also gave us Insurrection. They all made plenty of positive decisions in the past, but this didn't make them immune from having bad ideas or even just running out of ideas.

If you ask me, this is the real root of the problem. People like to rag on Braga a lot, but I'd like to see you try continually coming up with new space shit of the week plots for fourteen straight years while simultaneously co-producing two shows and making a bunch of movies while you're at it. Anyone would have eventually run out of ideas given all that.