She-Ra and the Princesses of Power

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Worffan101 wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:13 pm That Princess Prom episode was one of the gayest things I've ever seen. It was glorious.
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Slash Gallagher wrote: Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:11 pm Why should I trust the people pushing it that they won't "otherize" people themselves?
You shouldn't. That's human nature, and it's worth calling out if it happens.

But that's not what is happening. The majority of people asking for not being othered... just want to not be othered.
Dude, don't even bother arguing with Slash. All he's doing is regurgitating tired alt-right talking points.
Are there any ideas for which the case was not already made a zillion times?

Will anyone use the word alt right 3 years from now?
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SO HOW ABOUT THAT PROM EPISODE HUH? 8D

Catra coming in in that tux was AMAZING, and I love that Catra knows Adora well enough she can just spend a whole episode tricking Adora into rage-thirsting after her while an accomplice executes the real scheme.
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Difficult to go past Princess Prom, yeah - I feel like the season as a whole kept building to a peak past that, but at the same time things started getting a lot more interwoven, it's hard to pick out a single episode later on that really stands alone. Promise, though, I'd say comes close, I loved the way they executed the vision quest kind of scenario for Adora and Catra, and where they took it.
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Do you thin the first one's tech was deliberately trying to drive a wedge between them with those visions?
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I like that there's a sense of inscrutability to the First Ones remnants/Light Hope, that they're thinking along different lines to our heroes, and their interpretation of 'good' isn't always going to align with ours. My feeling is that the Crystal Castle intended to push Adora and Catra to their tipping point - I don't think they did it specifically to drive them apart (or push them together, which I don't think was impossible either), just that they wanted to burn away the ambiguity in their relationship now, rather than leave it simmering for another day.

For me it brought to mind the Bene Gesserit's 'crisis and observation' philosophy - no matter whether the subject succeeds or fails, you've got a definite result, rather than just having to guess.
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Worffan101 wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:13 pm That Princess Prom episode was one of the gayest things I've ever seen. It was glorious.
During that one scene (if you've seen it you know it.) I had chucks 'Gay Point Gay' gag from the Dr Who 'End of Time' part 2 review running through my head and I couldn't stop chuckling. It was a great scene.
I am the one who requested Chuck review Kannazuki No Miko. (under an old alias)

I count it among the most despicable things I have ever done to another human being and I'm sorry.

Things I have requested that are not evil:
* Anna's Quest
* Contradiction
* TECHNOBABYLON
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I'd like to take a minute to remind everyone that most of the main cast were confirmed in press releases to be 14 years old.

Fourteen year old lesbians.

Sea Hawk is implied to be an adult, and is totally gay for the 14 year old Bow and wants to get into 14 year old mermista's pants.

I also love how the production team screeches cultural diversity and empowerment while simultaneously making Bow unable to walk and chew bubble gum without needing to be rescued every few episodes. Space Janitor finn is still a more hilarious icon of left winged methodology being heinously insulting when its trying to be empowering, but its a close race.

And WTF is up with Spinerella's design? Is this supposed to be some kind of left winged body positivity thing? Her waist is a size 14 and her neck and face belongs to a size 4 body. She just looks all kinds of deformed.

I feel like Noelle Stevenson was going for a Star Wars holiday special level of quality with this show, and missed.
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Wh...what the fuck dude?

Yes they are 14 years old...because there are 14 year old lesbians. Plenty of kids realize they aren't straight early in life. How is that creepy or wrong? Non-straight sexualities aren't inherently more "adult".

Some chubby gals don't have chubby faces. It's not "deformed".

I don't know that we have a confirmed age for Seahawk or Mermista yet.

What does having one character who's incompetent have to do with diversity?

Seriously who pissed in your coffee?
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:39 pm Wh...what the fuck dude?

Yes they are 14 years old...because there are 14 year old lesbians. Plenty of kids realize they aren't straight early in life. How is that creepy or wrong? Non-straight sexualities aren't inherently more "adult".

Some chubby gals don't have chubby faces. It's not "deformed".

I don't know that we have a confirmed age for Seahawk or Mermista yet.

What does having one character who's incompetent have to do with diversity?

Seriously who pissed in your coffee?
Back atcha

First of all, depictions of minors in sexual situations is a crime in most countries. So why the eff do we need to have catra getting all bad touch on some of the female characters and Adora having her thigh wedged up in Catra's crotch in Princess Prom?

Second, lets role reverse here. Catra is a guy, adora is a woman, both adults, and catra is behaving the same way. The left media would lose their s*it and scream toxic masculinity. But noone has a problem with it when they are both minors and girls. Right. there's definitely toxicity there, but its not masculine.

I have less of a problem seeing material that has gotten people thrown in jail being depicted on Netflix, as I do with the person who would create this material. Who the eff wakes up one day and says to themselves "I feel like the world needs more children in sexual situations?" Who tolerates this? Who feels a need for this to be on the air?

Noelle Stevenson wanted to have the cast be gay and flaunting it. Fine. Create a new show. Stop appropriating icons from geek culture. Then, have them be effing adults, or have them behave like mentally and emotionally healthy 14 year olds. Portraying children, and they ARE children, behaving sexually is something NO ONE should want, tolerate, or feel the need to create. Lets call it what it is, Pedophilia. It'd be pedophilia if it was heterosexual, its pedophilia when its homosexual.

Regarding spinarella, please show me a living woman with a face structure and neck that is THAT disproportionate to their body structure.

Regarding Seahawk, So you are okay for an implied adult to be trying to pick up on confirmed minors? You don't have a problem with the shows creators not having the sense to go "you know, maybe we SHOULD confirm Sea Hawk is in the same age bracket in a press release or something?"

Basically, like TLJ, Star Trek Discovery, and Ghostbusters 2016, this show, specifically its production team, is a testament to everything that is wrong with Extremist Neo-Leftist methodology. Wait, wrong is too tame a word. Its everything that is sociopathic and borderline psychotic. Beginning with the abuse and twisting of geek culture icons as propaganda fuel, and concluding with extreme disconnect from any resembling morality. If you DESPERATELY need to see homosexuality in modern media, there are plenty of saner and more grounded icons in media today. This show is nothing more than a train wreck created by textbook Nietzschian caliber fanatics.

I could go on, like recommending looking up Noelle Stevensons qualifications compared to other production heads working today, and ponder how she got the job. It's my new counter point when someone screeches about men being hired over women despite being equally or more qualified. The designs overall, reviews that are clearly bought out by dreamworks and reciting bullet points, a toxic and derogatory attitude towards the fandom and franchise. But you don't need a wall of text, and neither do I.
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Sexual situations? They are dancing. At a prom. In the manner of lots of teen characters in shows aimed at children at proms. You're talking like there was cunnilingus going on.
Stop appropriating icons from geek culture.
It's called an >>adaptation<<. It's not "appropriation". It's a remake of one of many low-quality cartoons cranked out to sell toys during the 80s, not a bastardization of some nearly-extinct religion's sacred text.
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