Riedquat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:43 pmQuite. I've not seen him say anything terrible. What I have seen is people getting worked up when someone challenges their assumptions. I don't 100% agree with everything he's saying but I think he's got a good point. Why do we look after children and not let them run off doing whatever they feel like? On the other hand why is keeping them on a very short leash unhealthy too? Children are children, not men or women and it's not until they're a bit older - i.e. adults - that they're really in a position to take responsibility for themselves and realise what they really are.
Before then a bit of curiosity is probably quite common and certainly shouldn't be demonised or criticsed but part of becoming an adult is realising whether it was just curiosity or what you really are. Until then no-one really is straight, gay, tran or anything else, their sexuality simply cannot be said with certainty until it's fully developed. To try to fix it earlier is doing people a serious disservice, whether it's trying to persuade someone who'll eventually turn out to be gay to be straight, or trying to tell someone that they're not straight simply because they're still exploring what their sexuality is and have a bit of curiosity. Leave them to work it out themselves, don't put any sexuality label on anyone not old enough to be certain themselves.
Nice to see some moderate opinions on here. I'm open to disagreeing views and ideas, as I feel a healthy polite argument builds intelligence and character. Living in an echo chamber where everyone agrees with you leads to a type of moral and intellectual atrophy.
So, back to the topic of whether trans children are a thing... hahahaha hell no. Sorry, not-sorry. Thats saying that entire generations of child raising is incorrect. I'm not saying society doesn't need improvement or to move forward, but I am saying that accusing a sum of human wisdom built over our entire civilization as being cruel and horrible, or as the left phrases it, built on a patriarchy of toxic masculinity, is just flat out sociopathic. I don't care how "Noble" your argument sounds, Doesn't characters in Star Trek like Gul Dukat show that its easy for a villain to imagine himself as a hero if his morality is corrupt enough? One of my favorite quotes on DS9 is when Kira says to Ziyal at one point of the cardassians having possession of the station is that a person can convince themselves that they are right about anything, regardless of morality. This is why living in an echo chamber where everyone will agree with you is a very, very, bad idea.
Children are children, and adults need to lead them. To teach them about masculine roles, and feminine roles. To teach boys to be masculine, women to be feminine. To set examples and teach them to follow, and yes, even question at times so they themselves can learn and take responsibility. Questioning your born sexuality, is an act for an adult who already has gone through puberty and understands masculine and feminine roles. Who knows, and understands, what it means to be masculine and feminine. If you understand basic psychology, the question and alteration of ones identity is an act that can only occur when all human needs are met. Its also something VERY few people ever truly mature further along enough to do. How many people TRULY have an opinion, or thought that originated from them rather than repeating what they were taught or speaking what they want others to hear to "fit in?"
Children themselves, are still in need of guidance and leadership until they reach that point when they can begin to assert their own identity as individuals. And I will, without apologies, call anyone who would try to teach a child to question what they were born as, as a human monster. If I tried to do that to an adult who decided they were homosexual or wanted to be trans, I would be called thus. So why would it be otherwise when you try to harm a child who has yet to understand that level of responsibility for self and self actualization? It's one thing to psychologically harm and fail a child like that, but to be able to excuse and justify it?
Her horrible and monstrous politics aside, Noelle Stevenson is just a poor storyteller who has no qualification for head show runner which has lead she-ra to be such a colossal train wreck. I can name a half dozen more positive examples of cultural and yes, even homosexual representation in any medium, animation or otherwise.
