Trip/T'Pol weren't first

[Admiral X]

It's too bad they couldn't hand the reigns over to Coto sooner in any case.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

♬ If you're wondering how they eat and breed ♬
♬ And other science facts (la la la) ♬
♬ Then repeat to yourself "It's just a show" ♬
♬ "I should really just relax" ♬

Here's the catch 22 with that: yes, its only a show, its only fiction. But without audience engagement, without the audience caring, then you simply will not build a fifty year franchise like Star Trek is.
Star Wars tried that ''just don't care because its not real'' argument, and Solo failed to make its money back and Rian Johnson lost his job. Fallout 76 tried that ''just don't care because its not real'' argument, and its the lowest rated modern Fallout game. You want to kill your bottom line? Tell the franchise ''not to care because its not real.''

The problems of Fallout 76 have less to do with continuity and fictional biology and more to do with it being a mess of cowboy coding that crashes more than the Voyager shuttles they save for the really dangerous missions.

Except that this is true for Fallout 3, New Vegas and Fallout 4 as well and they are regarded pretty damn well by the Fallout community. So you'll get one more try to figure out why nobody likes Fallout 76. Hint: The difference is not shoddy coding.

Are you sure? Because everything seems to point to it being quantum levels of dysfunctional, not just "wacky horse that rotates" type Bethesda shit.

[Madner Kami]

You clearly haven't played any of these games right after release. Saving a game crashing the application and somehow invalidating all saves made prior were the baseline of OMGFWHATHAVETHEYDONE!?. So, yes. Yes I am sure. Despite all the dysfunctionality the games were loved because they were true to the franchise for the most part. Fallout 76 is dysfunctional and throws established cannon out of the window. See a difference?

[PerrySimm]

♬ If you're wondering how they eat and breed ♬
♬ And other science facts (la la la) ♬
♬ Then repeat to yourself "It's just a show" ♬
♬ "I should really just relax" ♬

Mike Nelson still makes a better Tom Paris, though!

[AndrewGPaul]

Diane Duane's Spock's World explicitly stated that Spock wasn't just a test tube baby, but that we was an artificially-created species of one; otherwise you're left with the something even more ridiculous than Amanda having viable offspring with those thongs that live round geothermal vents.


That was part of the B-plot; the A-plot was Kirk and co. trying to prevent Vexit.

[Deledrius]

That was part of the B-plot; the A-plot was Kirk and co. trying to prevent Vexit.

As much as I'm tired of the Klingons Go To War plots, I'm still glad DS9 had the Klingons back out rather than the Vulcans. It would have been a very hard thing to sell.

[G-Man]

♬ If you're wondering how they eat and breed ♬
♬ And other science facts (la la la) ♬
♬ Then repeat to yourself "It's just a show" ♬
♬ "I should really just relax" ♬

I think it is "eats and BREATHES."

I think the first time I can recall Star Trek giving any kind of lip service to difficulties in reproducing between two different species was with Worf and Jadzia,

I believe it is mentioned in "The Emissary" (TNG s2 e20) that some tinkering had been required for K'Ehleyr's parents to conceive her.

Unless the alien is something really bizarre, like Mogo is - a literal sentient planet. How do you mate with that?

Through the planet's humanoid avatar? See Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2.

[clearspira]

Jadzia was in the process of having her ovaries remodelled to conceive a child with Worf before she died. Federation medicine is VERY advanced.

[Yukaphile]

Mogo doesn't have a humanoid avatar.

[Riedquat]

♬ If you're wondering how they eat and breed ♬
♬ And other science facts (la la la) ♬
♬ Then repeat to yourself "It's just a show" ♬
♬ "I should really just relax" ♬

Always a cop-out for lazy world-building and simply not giving a damn. That's no better than those halfwits who trot out "It's science fiction" to justify any old nonsense from a writer who isn't interested in more than "hey, that looks cool."

I don't expect every question to be answered, everything explained in a way that's possible. I do expect consistent, logical within their own premise fictional universes and not having to resort to sneering at people who make more of an effort than the writers do. There's nothing wrong with thinking things through, and the same excuse to avoid doing so isn't any more valid here than it would be with inconsistent characterisation or acknowledgment to reality (writers and people defending a work on this basis are just as bad as someone who'd use it to handwave a story set in the real world, now, that had someone travelling from London one moment and Sydney the next).