Neelix causes another government shutdown because he wants a bigger border wall

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Well, it's not the first time. He slammed Hillary for Bill's 1994 criminal bill that she had no control over being the First Lady which he voted for. Hypocrisy much?

And yeah, he's been pretty much absent from civil rights since the 1960s, and even back then, that was just a cover to recruit people to socialism and his dreams of a white workers' revolution. What I find most offensive about him is his old-school misogyny and views on women. Like shoving his wife to the side numerous times during the campaign, his twisted sexual articles, and so on and so forth. He strikes me as a pervert, and not a "chivalrous pervert" like some people are with weird kinks, in a creepy stalker kind of way. Like, his fixation upon helping college students. It's like he wants to be surrounded by younger kids who adore him... why? It reminds me of Gene Roddenberry and his sexual perversions and how he surrounded himself with young activists who would unleash hell on his orders simply out of egocentrism and possibly a twisted kind of pedophilia. And some stupid young college level girls and boys honestly think he was more of a Feminist than Clinton? The woman who made a career out of campaigning for women and children while Sanders, by contrast, only tried to help white workers? And voted against Amber Alerts because he wants to protect the rights of rapists? He offends me as a Feminist. And I find more than a little convenient he spoils a race when it's a surefire winner with our only female candidate, and mucks it all up, destroys her reputation so badly the left cannibalized itself in a crucial election. Perhaps it's his own misogyny and he felt he couldn't let a woman run unless she personally had his seal of approval? Either way, hope he doesn't run. He's not a Democrat, and he helped give us Trump. If he runs, it will only divide the base more and ensure he's not properly vetted with so many candidates. If the DNC tries to let him slither his way into the party he doesn't belong to and has said he hates many times over the years again, there will be hell to pay.

Hillary gave you Trump. Sorry.

DNC reformists fanned the flames for swing-voters.

Put Bill there and he wins even with the Democrat backyard trouble.

Are you saying that Hillary winning the primary was because of Bill?

[Karha of Honor]

Well, it's not the first time. He slammed Hillary for Bill's 1994 criminal bill that she had no control over being the First Lady which he voted for. Hypocrisy much?

And yeah, he's been pretty much absent from civil rights since the 1960s, and even back then, that was just a cover to recruit people to socialism and his dreams of a white workers' revolution. What I find most offensive about him is his old-school misogyny and views on women. Like shoving his wife to the side numerous times during the campaign, his twisted sexual articles, and so on and so forth. He strikes me as a pervert, and not a "chivalrous pervert" like some people are with weird kinks, in a creepy stalker kind of way. Like, his fixation upon helping college students. It's like he wants to be surrounded by younger kids who adore him... why? It reminds me of Gene Roddenberry and his sexual perversions and how he surrounded himself with young activists who would unleash hell on his orders simply out of egocentrism and possibly a twisted kind of pedophilia. And some stupid young college level girls and boys honestly think he was more of a Feminist than Clinton? The woman who made a career out of campaigning for women and children while Sanders, by contrast, only tried to help white workers? And voted against Amber Alerts because he wants to protect the rights of rapists? He offends me as a Feminist. And I find more than a little convenient he spoils a race when it's a surefire winner with our only female candidate, and mucks it all up, destroys her reputation so badly the left cannibalized itself in a crucial election. Perhaps it's his own misogyny and he felt he couldn't let a woman run unless she personally had his seal of approval? Either way, hope he doesn't run. He's not a Democrat, and he helped give us Trump. If he runs, it will only divide the base more and ensure he's not properly vetted with so many candidates. If the DNC tries to let him slither his way into the party he doesn't belong to and has said he hates many times over the years again, there will be hell to pay.

Hillary gave you Trump. Sorry.

DNC reformists fanned the flames for swing-voters.

Put Bill there and he wins even with the Democrat backyard trouble.

Are you saying that Hillary winning the primary was because of Bill?

I am saying Bill is damn good politician.

[CharlesPhipps]

To build a border wall THAT WON'T WORK is a waste of spending.

20 Billion Dollars is a lot of money even for the US government.

Like, say, use it for paying for children's cancer treatments.

[Yukaphile]

She's also a good politician and was responsible for many achievements during his administration and long after. Like getting foster care for kids, helping to rebuild New York after 9/11, and nearly passing healthcare in the 1990s before the ACA. Who killed it? Oh right, Sanders himself, because it wasn't good enough and he wanted single-payer, which failed in his state and California. To ignore the fact that the man who promised to run a clean campaign and then went bat-shit bonkers negative and ran a blistering scorched-earth style campaign all the way to the convention might've damaged her reputation among crucial voters is remarkably ignorant. Elections are complex things and he contributed, however minor you think it was, to her loss. Accept that.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

G-Man, do you really, truly, honestly think that this wall is an effective and cost-efficient form of border security? Is that really what you believe? Is that the best use you can think of for that amount of money?

[Yukaphile]

From what I hear, Democrats wanted to increase border security, and even offered to add it to the budget even though the debt is so damned high and we could spend more time investing in education and taxing the rich and stuff like that, but nope, cheeto is dead set on having his wall, that he promised Mexico would pay for. And now his voters have put together a GoFundMe and raised $9,000,000. The sad part is a lot of these people aren't evil racists who think of latinos with an inferior culture they need to stop from infecting ours illegally with drugs or depraved sex acts, they really aren't. They just see a problem, and have a simplistic worldview, thinking, "Why can't they emigrate legally?" and so want to stop them from breaking the law. It's... kind of like Hank Hill on King of the Hill. They're not EVIL, they're most likely not racist, those raising this kind of money, but honestly suffer from the misguided attempt it will help deter people breaking the law, rather than trying to understand why they break it, and ignoring that it won't help stop it at all. I feel sorry for them. They were conned, and they just can't see that.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

No, people who contributed to the wall's gofundme really are evil.

[Yukaphile]

Millions of people? You can't write off millions of people that way. You just can't.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Millions of people? You can't write off millions of people that way. You just can't.

Just watch me.

[Admiral X]

All part of dehumanizing "the other" to justify doing bad things to them later.