Star Trek: Into Darkness

[Darth Wedgius]

He didn't start a war, and only cost them a new, powerful starship and a few tens of thousands of civilian lives. I can't say why he's a captain; this being Starfleet, Kirk should be an admiral.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Into Darkness lost me when they started with something that Futurama had already parodied, the underwater spaceship.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4RLOo6bchU

When you start off the movie with something that even Futurama flags up as being dumb, then -unless it is an intentional comedy- there is no coming back from that. Then the movie pressed onwards into Zapp Brannigan territory. If they'd called this a Futurama movie and replaced Spock with Kif, then it might have had a chnce.

So you just kinda sat through the entire movie after the pre-titles screen ended, in some apathetic state, neither here nor there?

[CrypticMirror]

Into Darkness lost me when they started with something that Futurama had already parodied, the underwater spaceship.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4RLOo6bchU

When you start off the movie with something that even Futurama flags up as being dumb, then -unless it is an intentional comedy- there is no coming back from that. Then the movie pressed onwards into Zapp Brannigan territory. If they'd called this a Futurama movie and replaced Spock with Kif, then it might have had a chnce.

So you just kinda sat through the entire movie after the pre-titles screen ended, in some apathetic state, neither here nor there?

The remote was on the other sofa; what do you want me to do, stand up? Walk across the room? You're being silly, now.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Into Darkness lost me when they started with something that Futurama had already parodied, the underwater spaceship.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4RLOo6bchU

When you start off the movie with something that even Futurama flags up as being dumb, then -unless it is an intentional comedy- there is no coming back from that. Then the movie pressed onwards into Zapp Brannigan territory. If they'd called this a Futurama movie and replaced Spock with Kif, then it might have had a chnce.

So you just kinda sat through the entire movie after the pre-titles screen ended, in some apathetic state, neither here nor there?

The remote was on the other sofa; what do you want me to do, stand up? Walk across the room? You're being silly, now.

Maybe take a nap?

[CrypticMirror]

Into Darkness lost me when they started with something that Futurama had already parodied, the underwater spaceship.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4RLOo6bchU

When you start off the movie with something that even Futurama flags up as being dumb, then -unless it is an intentional comedy- there is no coming back from that. Then the movie pressed onwards into Zapp Brannigan territory. If they'd called this a Futurama movie and replaced Spock with Kif, then it might have had a chnce.

So you just kinda sat through the entire movie after the pre-titles screen ended, in some apathetic state, neither here nor there?

The remote was on the other sofa; what do you want me to do, stand up? Walk across the room? You're being silly, now.

Maybe take a nap?

I was too tired from my previous nap to take a new one.

[TrueMetis]

Did nobody care that Kirk is still a screw-up and continued to prove he was a screw-up in everything he did? Spock and Scotty were the two who saved the day, aside from Kirk's suicide mission to realign the reactor-which shows he's heroic but says nothing about whether he's captain material.

It actually shows the exact opposite as per both real world and star trek examples. I mean didn't real Kirk have a quote about the value of an officer? NuKirk Sacrificing himself when there were other options is a really stupid move and says everything about how unfit he is to lead. Guess the Bridge Officer's Test headn't been invented yet.

[cambiata]

I'm just catching up on this review today. I liked the first ST movie well enough, but like Chuck I didn't really like this one. I kinda-sorta dug the homages when I watched it, but It just didn't have enough substance. There wasn't enough background between Kirk and Spock for a death of either of them to have meaning. What they should have done, instead of re-doing Wrath of Khan, is re-do Space Seed. Kept Khan as a morally grey character, had him help Kirk in uncovering a plot by Admiral Marcus to bring war to the federation, then placed Khan and his people on seti alpha 5. They had the potential for something here, but they didn't really use that potential at all.

[bronnt]

It actually shows the exact opposite as per both real world and star trek examples. I mean didn't real Kirk have a quote about the value of an officer? NuKirk Sacrificing himself when there were other options is a really stupid move and says everything about how unfit he is to lead. Guess the Bridge Officer's Test headn't been invented yet.

I dunno. Given how much of a screwed-up headcase he is, NuKirk sacrificing himself leaves Spock in charge. So the person he chose was one of the few people whose death would actually improve the Enterprise command structure. Brilliant choice, really; I'd take NuSpock to captain over NuKirk any day.

[Karha of Honor]

I'm just catching up on this review today. I liked the first ST movie well enough, but like Chuck I didn't really like this one. I kinda-sorta dug the homages when I watched it, but It just didn't have enough substance. There wasn't enough background between Kirk and Spock for a death of either of them to have meaning. What they should have done, instead of re-doing Wrath of Khan, is re-do Space Seed. Kept Khan as a morally grey character, had him help Kirk in uncovering a plot by Admiral Marcus to bring war to the federation, then placed Khan and his people on seti alpha 5. They had the potential for something here, but they didn't really use that potential at all.

How about not remaking an existing Star Trek episode?

[Makeshift Python]

The idea of Khan actually being an ally was the only real novel idea this film had going for and at least for me a justification for bringing back an iconic character. Maybe end it like "Space Seed" where Khan is reunited with his people and Kirk gives them an uninhabited world to make their own. Kirk turning against Khan is such a terrible contrivance, done just so Khan would have some beef with Kirk and the crew.