Neelix causes another government shutdown because he wants a bigger border wall

[TGLS]

Wasn't the restriction on Chinese immigrants right around the time of a conflict or something? I'm highly skeptical about it being for practical reasons.

The drive for it began in the 1870s, during an economic crisis when Chinese were blamed for driving wages down by taking up low income jobs. The act was eventually passed in 1882.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Isn't it weird how the president is blaming democrats for the shut-down that he caused?

They wanted a culture war that lead to Trump...

Ah yes, if we didn't call people racist then Trump never would have gotten elected, so things he does are our fault instead of his own fault. Gotcha.

Another straw man, Fuzzy.

Also, aren't congress and the president both responsible?

How am I straw manning?

You are ridiculing an argument your opponent didn't make. He said culture war lead to Trump. He didn't say that made Trump's actions your fault, nor is the culture war the same thing as calling people racist.

Honestly he defines it so broadly I'm not even sure what he means when he says the Culture War.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Pretty much, yes. Eyesores generally don't grow on people, nor do boondoggles, nor do people tend to forgive having their land and homes taken, nor do monuments to racism tend to endear themselves to those they are meant to oppress. Imagine the reaction that Confederate monuments are getting now, and that's what Trump's wall will be facing when it goes up.

Also, the longer this shutdown goes on, the more people are going to hate the wall. We're already at the point where TSA is talking a wildcat strike. That basically shuts down all commercial air travel in the country. The polling data we have not only indicates that most people are blaming Trump for the shut down, but as time goes on he's actually shouldering more of the blame.

Depends on how the economy does long term and how history goes. Long term they might not hate the wall.

History has a long arc....

We shall see...

Any arc that bends towards justice will bend away from your favorite many-times bankrupt dumbass. Why don't you go hang out with Ben Garrison if you wanna jerk off to an idealist President Neelix?

[Karha of Honor]

Honestly he defines it so broadly I'm not even sure what he means when he says the Culture War.

In what instances do you think i misused the term?

Any arc that bends towards justice will bend away from your favorite many-times bankrupt dumbass. Why don't you go hang out with Ben Garrison if you wanna jerk off to an idealist President Neelix?

Justice can work trough anyone. How is he my favorite?

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Trump is definitely responsible for this. Democrats are not exactly militant on Identity Politics. The public is, but the Democrats want your vote. Hillary brought it up in her campaign, but it was a blink and you'll miss it moment for me. So that's not a culture war, but... Actually no, I don't think anything the leftists did culminated into an anti-white sentiment until after Trump started getting power on his campaign. The culture war is largely due to Trump's influence on radical right empowerment, Brexit probably being the most signature of developments of that. These bigoted views were festering and had no real traction in media. Facebook had been around for a while at that point and it wasn't really a fuss. That and I still feel that post-Trump media attention to white nationalists and neo-nazis was more about them being more bold than influential. They started doing more marches, and I don't doubt there were more racially charged aggressions, but these people haven't gotten any real progress on establishment aside from Trump himself. Trump in turn just tries to tear down establishment.

Anyways, the likes of Metoo seemed mostly to be a result of people calling truth to power after Trump got elected. The sentiment was there, and social media was just clay ready to be molded into righteous squabbling.

[Admiral X]

You seem to have a somewhat revisionist view of things.

[Karha of Honor]

Trump is definitely responsible for this. Democrats are not exactly militant on Identity Politics. The public is, but the Democrats want your vote. Hillary brought it up in her campaign, but it was a blink and you'll miss it moment for me. So that's not a culture war, but... Actually no, I don't think anything the leftists did culminated into an anti-white sentiment until after Trump started getting power on his campaign. The culture war is largely due to Trump's influence on radical right empowerment, Brexit probably being the most signature of developments of that. These bigoted views were festering and had no real traction in media. Facebook had been around for a while at that point and it wasn't really a fuss. That and I still feel that post-Trump media attention to white nationalists and neo-nazis was more about them being more bold than influential. They started doing more marches, and I don't doubt there were more racially charged aggressions, but these people haven't gotten any real progress on establishment aside from Trump himself. Trump in turn just tries to tear down establishment.

Anyways, the likes of Metoo seemed mostly to be a result of people calling truth to power after Trump got elected. The sentiment was there, and social media was just clay ready to be molded into righteous squabbling.

Blink and you will miss a presidential candidate writing off a large chunk of the American public a hopeless subhuman orcs...

Ever since 2014 in the maisntream press there was a pathologization of whiteness however the fuck they even define it.

T Coates went from a joke to a sage way before Trump was elected.

MeToo's most talked about encounter, Aziz Anasari...
Truth to power...

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Trump is definitely responsible for this. Democrats are not exactly militant on Identity Politics. The public is, but the Democrats want your vote. Hillary brought it up in her campaign, but it was a blink and you'll miss it moment for me. So that's not a culture war, but... Actually no, I don't think anything the leftists did culminated into an anti-white sentiment until after Trump started getting power on his campaign. The culture war is largely due to Trump's influence on radical right empowerment, Brexit probably being the most signature of developments of that. These bigoted views were festering and had no real traction in media. Facebook had been around for a while at that point and it wasn't really a fuss. That and I still feel that post-Trump media attention to white nationalists and neo-nazis was more about them being more bold than influential. They started doing more marches, and I don't doubt there were more racially charged aggressions, but these people haven't gotten any real progress on establishment aside from Trump himself. Trump in turn just tries to tear down establishment.

Anyways, the likes of Metoo seemed mostly to be a result of people calling truth to power after Trump got elected. The sentiment was there, and social media was just clay ready to be molded into righteous squabbling.

Blink and you will miss a presidential candidate writing off a large chunk of the American public a hopeless subhuman orcs...

Ever since 2014 in the maisntream press there was a pathologization of whiteness however the fuck they even define it.

T Coates went from a joke to a sage way before Trump was elected.

MeToo's most talked about encounter, Aziz Anasari...
Truth to power...

Yet she won the popular vote...

Not sure what you're talking about with 2014.

And Ansari as far as I can tell was the trip-up that gassed the Metoo steam bubble. Though you're saying that he was talked about more than Weinstein, or was as groundbreaking as Spacey?

[Karha of Honor]

Trump is definitely responsible for this. Democrats are not exactly militant on Identity Politics. The public is, but the Democrats want your vote. Hillary brought it up in her campaign, but it was a blink and you'll miss it moment for me. So that's not a culture war, but... Actually no, I don't think anything the leftists did culminated into an anti-white sentiment until after Trump started getting power on his campaign. The culture war is largely due to Trump's influence on radical right empowerment, Brexit probably being the most signature of developments of that. These bigoted views were festering and had no real traction in media. Facebook had been around for a while at that point and it wasn't really a fuss. That and I still feel that post-Trump media attention to white nationalists and neo-nazis was more about them being more bold than influential. They started doing more marches, and I don't doubt there were more racially charged aggressions, but these people haven't gotten any real progress on establishment aside from Trump himself. Trump in turn just tries to tear down establishment.

Anyways, the likes of Metoo seemed mostly to be a result of people calling truth to power after Trump got elected. The sentiment was there, and social media was just clay ready to be molded into righteous squabbling.

Blink and you will miss a presidential candidate writing off a large chunk of the American public a hopeless subhuman orcs...

Ever since 2014 in the maisntream press there was a pathologization of whiteness however the fuck they even define it.

T Coates went from a joke to a sage way before Trump was elected.

MeToo's most talked about encounter, Aziz Anasari...
Truth to power...

Yet she won the popular vote...

Not sure what you're talking about with 2014.

And Ansari as far as I can tell was the trip-up that gassed the Metoo steam bubble. Though you're saying that he was talked about more than Weinstein, or was as groundbreaking as Spacey?

The subject was who won the popular vote?

The media op eds.

if i would have to bet i would say he was just as talked about.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Trump is definitely responsible for this. Democrats are not exactly militant on Identity Politics. The public is, but the Democrats want your vote. Hillary brought it up in her campaign, but it was a blink and you'll miss it moment for me. So that's not a culture war, but... Actually no, I don't think anything the leftists did culminated into an anti-white sentiment until after Trump started getting power on his campaign. The culture war is largely due to Trump's influence on radical right empowerment, Brexit probably being the most signature of developments of that. These bigoted views were festering and had no real traction in media. Facebook had been around for a while at that point and it wasn't really a fuss. That and I still feel that post-Trump media attention to white nationalists and neo-nazis was more about them being more bold than influential. They started doing more marches, and I don't doubt there were more racially charged aggressions, but these people haven't gotten any real progress on establishment aside from Trump himself. Trump in turn just tries to tear down establishment.

Anyways, the likes of Metoo seemed mostly to be a result of people calling truth to power after Trump got elected. The sentiment was there, and social media was just clay ready to be molded into righteous squabbling.

Blink and you will miss a presidential candidate writing off a large chunk of the American public a hopeless subhuman orcs...

Ever since 2014 in the maisntream press there was a pathologization of whiteness however the fuck they even define it.

T Coates went from a joke to a sage way before Trump was elected.

MeToo's most talked about encounter, Aziz Anasari...
Truth to power...

Yet she won the popular vote...

Not sure what you're talking about with 2014.

And Ansari as far as I can tell was the trip-up that gassed the Metoo steam bubble. Though you're saying that he was talked about more than Weinstein, or was as groundbreaking as Spacey?

if i would have to bet i would say he was just as talked about.

The article account of his behavior was the most quickly dismissed metoo encounter. He seemingly got shamed into silence, but there was practically no social blowback as far as I can tell.

I mean, that lady from XxX had a full on scandal after that that had several turning points of misinformation, loyalty betrayal, extortion, posthumous recounting, leadership questioning...